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What happened to Thomas....?




name: Thomas Quillen
gender: Male
birth date: 18 Nov 1868
birthplace: TRADESTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
father's name: James Quillen
mother's name: Margaret Terry

Thomas did not appear on any of the census so I can only assume he died .
I knew nothing about him so thank you
I had thought MARY A QUILLEN had been born in 1868 and was James and Margarets first child but perhaps Thomas was

James jnr death?

Rhode Island, Deaths, 1630-1930
Name: James Quillen
Kin 1: James Quillen
Kin 2: Margaret Quillen
Death Date: 20 Jun 1923
Age: 48 Yrs

Could be but not sure as I would have expected the next of kin to be his wife or step son. His father died in 1916 not sure about his mother at the moment

This may be a complete red herring but maybe worth eliminating.

Name: Lizzie Quillan
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relationship: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil parish: Glasgow Chalmers
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 534 Gallowgate
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 18
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1891_255
Household Members: Name Age
Michael McKeown 32
Jane McKeown 20
Lizzie Quillan 10
Joseph Quillan 7 Brother-in-law

Just wondering if Jane's age has been mistranscribed.

This marriage is the correct area.

1889 MCKEOWN MICHAEL QUILLAN MARGARET CALTON (GLASGOW) GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/04 0165


Nope! Not your family Jane was actually Margaret daughter of Patrick Quillen and Elizabeth .

I am confused now is the census the 1891 ?
Thank you.
You had me a little confused there but then it does not take much to do that these days !

Sorry Kath - yes the census was 1891 but not the correct family - just a co-incidence that there were two sisters Margaret (according to the marriage)/ Jane (according to the 1891 census) and Lizzie Quillen.

I will leave it up for elimination purposes.

thats ok thank you

1841 Census
Piece: SCT1841/685 Place: Edinburgh -Midlothian Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: New North
Folio: 123 Page: 8
Address: 102 Cowgate
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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
SWIFT Ann F 25 Keeps Lodgings Ireland
SWIFT John M 6 Midlothian
SWIFT Ann F 11m Midlothian
TERRY Hugh M 20 Labourer Ireland
TERRY Mary F 20 Ireland
[adult ages (15+) should be rounded down to a mult of 5 - looks like they were here, but weren't always]
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl


A child's b.cert 1855 & 1861 on will show date & place of parents' marr
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=554&628



By the turn of the century, it was quite common for the father (or possibly an adult son) to emigrate first and get things sorted, like jobs, accomodation etc., then send for the rest of the family.
Sometimes it was just 3m later, but it could be a couple of y later.

There are several collections of interest at:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES
(including RI censuses 1905/15/25 with images and US 1900/40 with images (link to left of transcription), plus RI BMDs)


If you've not got the image, for decent resolution, magnify 4 clicks, then save:
1910 http://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po1443unit#page/n16/mode/1up
[addy=122 Stewart St, (City of) Providence, Providence Co RI
Jas Jr is marr (2 y - but wife not present in h/h); Jas Sr is Wid; both immig 1887; both naturalized citizens]

1920 http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1677unit#page/n402/mode/1up
[addy=8 Bogman St, Providence; Phoebe pob=RI; Chester pob=CT]

Kath....Dont know how far you got with the family in the US but if you think the Quillens pose a problem wait until you search "Phebes" line...!!
I know she is not directly related but using the info.Marie Celeste supplied I did some digging to see what I could find....Needs a dozen pair of eyes and brains to work that line out..!!

Phebe "Ann" Harvey was in fact Phebe Shelley (nee Streeter) ....she married Owen Wm. Shelley 1897
Chester R Shelley son of the above was b 1895 !!
1900 Census RI shows him with Walter and Emma Harvey under the name Chester R.Shelley.(grandson)

Phebes mother was Emma Streeter (nee Cory) she married Walter Harvey in May 1886 having previously been married to a Charles Streeter....in 1861.

Found 2 other daughters from that marriage an Ida Rebecca who married a Wm.L Caswell (1886)
and ...wait for it.....
Mary Eliz. who married Fred Harvey brother of Walter....(1888)

Although Phebe is a "Streeter" on her marriage to Owen Shelley ..Charles Streeters name is not noted under Fathers Name ...only her mothers name.

Eringobragh,wow !
Thank you for the information even though it is not my direct line I am always interested in anything we can find. I do not subscribe to ancestry anymore so I am limited as to were I research so I am so grateful to you.
Thank you again\
kath

MGNV
Thank you for the information and the links .
Since thy change familysearch.org I find it more difficult to find information so I am grateful for the links.
Off to look now,thank you !

Kath...I dont have any other site either but delve into family Search now and again..like you I find it difficult to work with using the new system....

I have been looking at the TERRY' family and have found some things on Scotlands People....

Are you short of info.for that side of the family..(other than Hugh's marriage )...

Was Hugh and family living in Glasgow 1871 or still in Edinburgh...?

Hugh Terry and family lived in Glasgow in 1871
Hugh died in 1879 while his wife died in 1871 , I have both death certificates bought from Scotlands people

I have struggled to find a marriage for Elizabeth Terry born 1845.
The only one I found was to a John Campbell in 1869 but it was in Ayrshire so I am not sure.
John Terry left Scotland and went to England. He was my g grandfather and I have been able to follow him
Joseph Terry b1851 Edinburgh,I can find nothing on him. He does not appear on the 1861 census so I assume he died but not found a death
Thats about it
Thank you for your help and interest
Kath