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Born Brunswick,Canada 1874.In 1911 census.Married to Matilda born Shrewsbury ,Shropshire. Cannot find a marriage for these two ? He is not in the 1901 census.So must have arrived here after that time.He was in the merchant Navy as a cook.Would like to trace him and his family back in Canada.Or if anyone else can find a marriage for these two? Would be grateful for any help.Thanks!

Marriages Dec 1924 (>99%)
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McLatchy Walter Pickerin Kidderminster 6c 191
Pickerin Matilda McLatchy Kidderminster 6c 191

more children

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
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McLatchy Thomas S Pickerin Kidderminster 6c 160

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Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
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McLatchey Philip Pickering Kidderminster 6c 167

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Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
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McLatchy Margaret G Pickering Kidderminster 6c 160

Correction to your information


Walter was born in New Brunswick, Canada ............. a province, not Brunswick which could be a town, city or village.


Could be important in finding him.

I don't have the sub to see any further ........but this is on ancestry

1881 Canadian Census

Walter McLatchy b. township, Westmorland, New Brunswick 1873



from www.familysearch.org/


"Canada Census, 1881," Walter McLatchy in household of Calvin Wheaton, Salisbury, Westmorland, New Brunswick, Canada

Name: Walter McLatchy
Title:
Gender: Male
Age: 8y
Calculated Birth Year: 1873
Birthplace: New Brunswick
Marital Status:
Occupation:
Ethnic Origin: Scottish
Religion: Bapt
Head of Household: Calvin Wheaton
Born During Last Year:
Census Place: Salisbury, Westmorland, New Brunswick, Canada
District Number: 33
Sub District: H
Division: 1
Page Number: 38
House Number: 931888
Family Number: 160
Digital Folder Number: 4463126
Image Number: 00455
Film Number: 1375820
Library and Archives Canada Film Number: C-13184
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Calvin Wheaton M 30y New Brunswick
Josephine Wheaton F 24y New Brunswick
Walter McLatchy M 8y New Brunswick
Florance Wheaton F




ancestry ...................

?????
1901 Canadian Census

Walter Mclatchy
Kings, Nova Scotia 1880 location info



?????? a relation??????


from familysearch



"Canada Census, 1891," Regenald W Mc Latchy, Moncton, Westmorland,

Name: Regenald W Mc Latchy
Gender: Male
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: 1877
Birthplace: New Brunswick
Marital Status: Single
Religion: Methodist
Province: New Brunswick
District: Westmorland
District Number: 24
Sub-District: Moncton
Library and Archives Canada Film Number: 30953_148108





sylvia

other possible relations ...................


Laura Jane Mclatchey
Canada, Births and Baptisms, 1661-1959
birth: 13 Nov 1865 New Brunswick,? Canada
residence: 1865 New Brunswick,? Canada
parents: Jno Mclatchey,? Ann Parkin


This one is married, so husband (not shown) would be a McLatchey

Fannie Mclatchey
Canada Census, 1891
birth: 1868 New Brunswick
residence: 1891 Addington,? Restigouche,? New Brunswick,? Canada





sylvia

another birth using mothers maiden name

Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
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Pickerin Archie McL Pickerin Kidderminster 6c 127

Walter is living with Calvin and Josephine Wheaton on the 1881 ........ it looks as though Josephine was his sister ......................


this is on familysearch ..............


"Canada, Births and Baptisms, 1661-1959," Calvin Wheaton in entry for Wheaton, 1892

Name: Wheaton
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 21 Jul 1892
Birthplace: Salisbury, New Brunswick, Canada
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Calvin Wheaton
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Josephine Mcclatchy
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02449-8
System Origin: Canada-EASy
Source Film Number: 1944018
Reference Number: 6236


"New Brunswick, Provincial Returns of Births and Late Registrations, 1810-1906," Calvin Wheaton in entry for Wheaton, 1889

Name: Wheaton
Event Date: 08 Jun 1889
Event Type: Birth
Event Place: Salisbury, Westmorland, New Brunswick
Gender: Female
Father: Calvin Wheaton
Mother: Josephine Mcclatetry
Certificate/Entry Number: 006652
Digital Folder Number: 4507668
Image Number: 00323
Film Number: 1944005




I can't find a marriage to prove it!




sylvia

there are several Public Family Trees on ancestry with Walter in them

All trees on ancestry must be regarded with some suspicion because peopel do tend to take information from other trees with no checking.

But you can use them as a good starting point.


One of the trees shows Walter and Matilda's children.


Parents

No Father
No Mother

Spouse & Children

Matilda Pickering 1880 – 1961

Walter William Mclatchy 1904 – 1976
Matilda E Mclatchy 1905 – 1961
Frederick McLatchy 1906 – 1985
Violet E R McLatchy 1908 – 1909
Mary Evelyn McLatchy 1909 – 1992
Horace Murdoch McLatchy 1910 – 2000
Thomas Sidney Mclatchy 1912 – 1994
Philip McLatchy 1914 – 1917
Archie Mclatchy 1918 – 1926




I suspect that one or both were married when they met and began to live together ........ otherwise why would they not marry until 1924.


Matilda is a Servant (possibly a patient) in a hospital in Salford in 1901




sylvia

Crew Lists 1861-1913 - entry details
First name(s): WALTER
Last name: MCLATCHY
Made mark: Capacity: AB
Year of birth: 1874 (calculated) Indenture date:
Age: 24 Indenture port:
Place of birth (transcribed): St John, NB RNVR number:
Place of birth (standardised): St John, NB Ticket number:
Previous ship: Limacha
Previous ship port: L'pool search for vessel
Previous ship year: 1898
Vessel name: Blazer Vessel official number: 95158
Period for crew list: 3 May 1898 - 17 Jun 1898 Port: Liverpool
Master: James BUCK Port registry number: 93
Master's address: 59 Tunstall St Port registry year: 1889
Master's town (transcribed): L'pool Gross tonnage: 283
Master's town (standardised): Liverpool, Lancashire Net tonnage: 6
Master's ticket number: 87334 Horse power: 130
Owner: Captn Jas BELL Number of seamen: 26
Owner's address: 28 Chapel St Repository's reference: P/SL/9
Owner's town (transcribed): Liverpool Log book available?: No
Owner's town (standardised): Liverpool, Lancashire Record source: Merseyside Maritime Msm

(saw the above Find my Past)

Chris :)

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England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Walter McLatchy

Name: Walter McLatchy
Spouse Surname: Cotterill
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1927
Registration district: Kidderminster
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume Number: 6c
Page Number: 178
Find Spouse:

Spouse: Beatrice Cotterill

AH



This must be the marriage of Walter's son ...............


from that Public Family Tree ..............

Walter William Mclatchy
Birth 1904 in Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England
Death 1976 in Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England



Walter himself died in 1926 ...........

Deaths Sep 1926 (>99%)

McLatchy Walter 53 Kidderminster 6c 58




sylvia

pm from Valarie

Thanks for info Jax. So do you think it was possible they married all those years later 1924? He died in 1926...Maybe they decided to marry as he was perhaps very ill? They had their first child in 1905? Possible I guess?

Thanks for the pm but could you reply on the thread by adding a reply in the white box at the bottom of the posts

As already mentioned he may have been married before or did'nt get around to it perhaps? I know my own 2x gt grandparents did'nt marry for 25 years and she died the following year...but it could have been just one of those things

A tree on Rootsweb says that Josephine Hoar born 1855 Hopewell, New Brunswick married first Rober Bussby then second George Henry McLatchy, born abt. 1848, married 30 June 1872 and had son Walter McLatchy born abt. 1873. She married third Calvin Wheaton born 8 May 1853, New Brunswick, married 15 Oct. 1878. They had 7 children all listed on Rootsweb.

Drill down at the LAC portal:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html

To http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-911.009-e.html

1881 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e326/e008134255.pdf
[a=8 - One wonders who the Wheatons are - Salisbury is 20km-ish W of Moncton]


1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: NB WESTMORLAND (#24)
Subdistrict: Salisbury F-3 Page 5
Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6445
3 41 Wheaton Calvin M Head M May 8 1853 47
4 41 Wheaton Josephine F Wife M Oct 15 1855 45
5 41 Wheaton Fred B. M Son S Jan 8 1884 17
6 41 Wheaton Annie F Daughter S Mar 27 1886 15
7 41 Wheaton Amy F Daughter S Jun 7 1889 11
8 41 Wheaton Horace M Son S Jul 27 1893 7
9 41 Wheaton Ina F Daughter S Aug 2 1896 4
10 41 Wheaton George A. M Son S Nov 22 1900
11 41 Wheaton Murdoch M Son S Apr 22 1880 20

At http://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/?culture=en-CA thre's a b.cert for an unnamed male b 22/11/1900 to Calvin Wheaton and _____ Hoar.
So Walter's not a bro of Josephine - could be a nephew of hers or Calvin's.

1901 Schedule 2
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z001/z000032571.pdf
[Page 5 Line 3 addy=Salisbury village]


EDIT Just noticed Margee's post - will try and check that out

Thanks everyone for the above info! Wish I could find Walter on the 1901 census UK....Then again I have found these census to be incorrect at times.As my own family of Bowen were listed as Brown?

He is obviously in UK after sailing here and landing in Liverpool 1898. Or he may have been on another boat as a crew member? Would be interesting to know how he ended up in Worcester county?

Also would like to find more info on George McLatchy ( in Canada) Father of Walter McLatchy born 1873/1874.
He must have died as wife Josephine remarried to Wheaton.
It says Scottish Origin.Was George Scottish or was he born in Canada?

**** Maybe someone can post the full 1911 ****

HOUSEHOLD MCLATCHY WALTER M 1874 37 Kidderminster Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD MCLATCHY MATILDA F 1881 30 Kidderminster Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD MCLATCHY WALTER M 1905 6 Kidderminster Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD MCLATCHY MATILDA F 1906 5 Kidderminster Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD MCLATCHY FRED M 1907 4 Kidderminster Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD MCLATCHY MARY F 1909 2 Kidderminster Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD MCLATCHY HOARCE M 1910 1 Kidderminster Worcestershire


I had a look 1901-1926 for all BMDs regoed for McLatchy in Kidderminster.
Every event was just indexed under one surname.

They confirm SylviaIC's tree list thru 1926 - there were 2 omissions & 1 oddity:

Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
McLatchy Margaret G Pickering Kidderminster 6c 160
Deaths Mar 1920 (>99%)
McLatchy Margaret 3 Kidderminster 6c 113

Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
Pickerin Archie McL Pickerin Kidderminster 6c 127


Hopewell is at the mouth of the Petitcodiac River, and Dorchester is across the river to the East.
Like most rivers off the Bay of Fundy, it has a tidal bore - the mud banks of the river look like molten chocolate.

There are 2 poss Josephine Hoars in 1871
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396319_00166.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396319_00292.pdf

I favour the second - the first is a servant in Coverdale - midway between Moncton & Salisbury, but on the S (Albert Co) bank of the river.
The second is with a family in Hillsborough - 25 km from Moncton on the road to Hopewell Cove - abt 10km from latter.

The real reason I favour the 2nd is an Ag Lab on the previous image, in Henry & Nancy Addy's h/h.
Also note the h/h next door to Hoars:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396319_00291.pdf

Albert & Westmorland together form a squarish chunk.
Albert Co is a squarish Co in the SE corner of this chunk - the river forms its N & E boundary with Westmorland Co.


I'm inclined to discount a marr to Rober Bussby (surely that's a typo for Robert, or maybe even Roger).
I believe Josie's 1901 b'day (15/10/1855), so I think she's just too young to be on her 2nd marr on 30/6/1872.

Now she's Walt's mum, here're her other censuses, plus her ancestors:

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148108-00343.pdf

Calvin d 27/8/1908 @ Salisbury c.o.d=Suicide

1911 - Easy one - there were links on 1901 transcript

1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / New Brunswick / Westmoreland / 29 Salisbury Parish / page 6
40 52 Wheaton Josephine F Head W Oct 1863 47
41 52 Wheaton Ina F Daughter S Sep 1896 14
42 52 Wheaton Archie M Son S Nov 1900 10

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001963476.pdf


1851
Albert County, Hopewell Parish, page 3

Line FID Surname Givens Sex Relation Age Race Occupation Date of
Entry Sick or
Infirm Remarks Links
1 2353 Hoar Solomon M Head 61 Farmer 1798 Loss of Feet fr Nova Scotia
2 2353 Hoar Mary F Wife 53 1803
3 2353 Hoar David M Son 29 Farmer birth
4 2353 Hoar Alford M Son 14 birth
5 2353 Hoar Ruth F Daughter 17 birth
6 2353 Hoar Luncinda F Daughter 9 birth

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1851_pdf/e092/e002292052.pdf
[In NB, 1851 ag census is just given on parish-wide basis]


1851
Albert County, Hillsborough Parish, page 25 split screen

Line FID Surname Givens Sex Relation Age Race Occupation Date of
Entry Sick or
Infirm Remarks Links
8 1298 Irving James M * 25 Scotch Farmer birth *Bachelor
9 1298 McLatchy Nancy F Sister 30 birth widow
10 1298 McLatchy James H M * 4 birth *her son (nancy)
11 1298 McLatchy Geo. Henry M * 2 birth her son

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1851_pdf/e092/e002292027.pdf
[In NB, 1851 ag census is just given on parish-wide basis]

1861
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108532_00316.pdf
This census often continued onto the next image, but this is often blank, like here:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108532_00317.pdf
Sol (no 2nd page)
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108532_00291.pdf
George
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108532_00226.pdf
Jane
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108532_00227.pdf
(seems there was no direct connect to Jane, now I see George is Agnes Addy's son)

1871 Sol in Harvey
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396319_00562.pdf

1881 Agnes + (David=) Gould Hoar
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e325/e008124844.pdf
Josie+Walt
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e326/e008134255.pdf

1891 Agnes(s)
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148099-00506.pdf


1901 S1 Josie
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z001/z000032578.pdf

Thankyou mgnv.....Lots to work with here! Is it possible to find a marriage for Nancy McLatchy? Her husband would have been Scottish I think? They would have married around 1845 at a guess ( in Canada ) Or even a death for him. putting that at around early 1850's after last child born?

Thankyou mgnv.....Lots to work with here! Is it possible to find a marriage for Nancy McLatchy? Her husband would have been Scottish I think? They would have married around 1845 at a guess ( in Canada ) Or even a death for him. putting that at around early 1850's after last child born?

Drill down at LAC portal to marrs
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-906.002-e.html

This links to
RS551A :: Index to Marriage Bonds 1810-1932
http://archives.gnb.ca/Search/rs551a/Default.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/Search/RS551A/Default-e.aspx&culture=en-CA
and
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-906.006-e.html#g

Check out the NB county guides for Albert & Westmorland Cos:
http://archives.gnb.ca/ResearchTools/CountyGuides.aspx?culture=en-CA

Vital Statistics from Government Records (RS141)
http://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/?culture=en-CA

You might check out http://nb.canadagenweb.org/


I've no trouble thinking Nancy McLatchy Abby, the former Agnes Irving was Scottish in origin.
However, her 1851 McLatchy neighbours are Irish, and on other censuses, every McLatchy I've seen was protestant, so maybe they're Ulster Scots.
(A minor 1851 point - neighbour John Sr, who could well be her f-i-l, immig 1811 from NS. His wife Nancy could well be her former hubby's step-mum. Anyways, until the Dominion of Canada was formed 1/7/1867, British North America was just a collection of seperate colonies.
(ON & QC together formed the United Province of Canada), so immig from one colony to another makes sense.
One sees the date of the 1851 census as 12/1/1852 - this is an Ottawa-centric view. It might be the case for ON/QC, but the enumerators' completed schedules were turned in by 1/11/1851 in NB )
So an 1845 marr seems reasonable, but in NB - not Canada (at that date Actually, I've often wondered what one does abt boundary changes like that - my bro was born in Paddington, London, but if my grandad were born in exactly the same place, it would have been Paddington, Middx - so what county should I have said for him? - the question does arise for my grandad's bro - with a less well-known county boundary change).

I guess her name was Irving, but my g gran had 3 bros (well half-brothers really) and all 4 had difft surnames.