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Please please can anyone help, I have hit a brick wall , I am trying to find the parents of brothers Frank and Frederick Gibbs, I know they lived in Essex, and also believe their parents were born in Essex.
Fingers crossed From Ken

do you have dates please

Sorry forgot to add d.o.b Frank about 1907 and Frederick about 1910
Ken

hi there is this one

1911 Census Household Record Household information
Address 41 Burnaby Southend Essex
Parish Prittlewell
Town Burnaby Southend
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 5
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN10150 RG78PN533B RD195 SD2 ED38 SN94
Administrative County Essex
Registration District Rochford
Registration Sub District Prittlewell
Enumeration District 38

Householder 1
Name William Gibbs
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 50
Estimated Year of Birth 1861
Occupation Clay Miner
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Corp Sewage Works
Place of Birth Exeter Devonshire

Householder 2
Name Margaret Gibbs
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married / 28 Years
Total Children Born Alive 10
Children Still Living 8
Children Who Have Died 2
Gender F
Age 42
Estimated Year of Birth 1869
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth London Wandsworth

Householder 3
Name Walter Gibbs
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 17
Estimated Year of Birth 1894
Occupation Clay Miner
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Corp Sewage Works
Place of Birth Yorks York

Householder 4
Name Frank Gibbs
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1896
Occupation Hou Painter
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Builder
Place of Birth Cambridge

Householder 5
Name Berty Gibbs
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1898
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Essex Southend On Sea

Householder 6
Name Sidney Gibbs
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1900
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Essex Southend On Sea

Householder 7
Name Edward Gibbs
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1904
Occupation School
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Essex Southend On Sea

Householder 8
Name Frederick Gibbs
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1907
Occupation School
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Essex Southend On Sea

???
1911 census transcription details for: 56 the Crescent Walthamstow

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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN9677 RG78PN514A RD188 SD10 ED3 SN267
Reg. District: West Ham
Sub District: Walthamstow
Parish: Walthamstow
Enum. District: 3
Address: 56 the Crescent Walthamstow
County: Essex
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
GIBBS, Thomas Wilkins Head Married
29 years M 50 1861 Pine Worker City of London
GIBBS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 49 1862 Housewife Holborn London
GIBBS, Fredrick Son Single M 20 1891 Tyre Repairer Clerkenwell Ldn
GIBBS, Eva Ann Daughter Single F 18 1893 Cotton Winder St Lukes London
GIBBS, Charles Son M 14 1897 Lathe Hand St Lukes London
GIBBS, Florance Daughter F 10 1901 School Girl St Lukes London
GIBBS, George Son M 8 1903 School Boy Clerkenwell Ldn
GIBBS, Frank Son M 6 1905 School Boy Walthamstow
GIBBS, Winefred Daughter F 3 1908 Walthamstow


maybe fred was born after the 1911 census

have you looked on FreeBMD for births

??
Births Jun 1905
Gibbs Francis Ernest W. Ham 4a 333

Thanks to PollyPoppet and Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it.
I very much appreciate your help, but still not too sure of which family they may be part of. I have looked on FreeBMD and this is where my confusion started.
The only extra information I have (from a relative) is that Frank may have been Frank Frederick and lived at Woodford Bridge after his marriage, Fred was Frederick John, and lived at South Woodford until 1947, after which he lived at Leigh-on-Sea.
Thanks again Ken

Hello Ken, do you have any information about who they may have married, if so - who, where and when?

Also, if you have any idea when and where they might have died then that may help us trace them back.

there is this one

1911 census
Household information
Address Newland Street Witham Essex
Parish Witham
Town Witham
Type of Building Pork Butchers Shop
Number of Rooms 5 Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN10412 RG78PN553 RD201 SD4 ED1 SN53
Administrative County Essex
Registration District Braintree
Registration Sub District Witham
Enumeration District 1

Householder 1
Name James Edward Gibbs
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 38
Estimated Year of Birth 1873
Occupation Pork Purveyor
Employed Y
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth London Bow
Nationality British

Householder 2
Name Emily Jane Gibbs
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married / 13 Years
Total Children Born Alive 5
Children Still Living 4
Children Who Have Died 1
Gender F
Age 39
Estimated Year of Birth 1872
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Braintree Essex
Nationality British

Householder 3
Name Muriel Edith Gibbs
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1901
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Witham Essex
Nationality British

Householder 4
Name James Albert Gibbs
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1903
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Witham Essex
Nationality British

Householder 5
Name Annie Emily Gibbs
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1905
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Witham Essex
Nationality British

Householder 6
Name Frank Frederick Gibbs
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1907
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Witham Essex
Nationality British

possible birth for census i gave you

Name Frank Frederick Gibbs
Year of Registration 1906
Quarter of Registration Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Braintree
Registration County Essex
Mother's maiden name
Volume Number 4A
Volume Page 860

Hi PollyPoppet,
These seem promising thankyou, I will check through again tomorrow and
see if things tie in.
Thanks for your time much appreciated.
Ken

Marriages Sep 1897 (>99%)
Gibbs James Edward Poplar 1c 1103
HEASTER Emily Jane Poplar 1c 1103

I'm not seeing a Frederick John born to the above couple after 1911.

Name: Frederick J Gibbs
Birth Date: abt 1904
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1958
Age at Death: 54
Registration district: Rochford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 811

Leigh comes under Rochford but his birth is way before 1910.

pm from Ken:

Frank Frederick married Joan E Blanchard in 1950 July qtr at Romford don't know his death date.
Frederick John married Hilda B Dixon in 1942 Jan qtr at Ilford, he died at Rochford in 1958 Ken


... so that confirms the death that Shirley found above.

so getting both marriage certs will name their father .
Name: Frank F Gibbs
Spouse Surname: Blanchard
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1950
Registration district: Romford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 5a
Page Number: 1327
Find Spouse: Find Spouse


ame: Frederick J Gibbs
Spouse Surname: Dixon
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1942
Registration district: Ilford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 1147
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Cant see a death in Essex for Frank.

Is this a possiblity??
Name: Frank Frederick Gibbs
Birth Date: 29 Oct 1906
Date of Registration: Jan 1993
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: Clun
Inferred County: Shropshire
Register Number: 17A
District and Subdistrict: 7111
Entry number: 52

dob would fit with the qrt of the birth listed

Thanks Shirley,
That is great, seems Frank lived to a good age.
Ken

Would still recommend getting both marriage certs to see the dad's name

Would Father's name be on certificate if he was deceased when the boys were married Shirley.
Ken

Ken, providing a person knew who their father was then he would be named on the marriage certificate and usually (but not always) annotated as "deceased".