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Hi, I have found direct Irish ancxestors but can't find them in Ireland. i only have information from a scottish census.

Andrew McFadyen c.1847 - 1914 married to Mary Currens then to Susan McGreechan c.1847-1887 1871 scottish census has them living in New Monklands showing Andrew as head aged 24yrs born Ireland.

According to his death certificate, his father was called William and mother Agnes McCracken. William died in 1869 in New Monklands

Can anyone tell me where to search to find further details.

Thanks

Start with the familysearch website

Thanks reggie

Could this the family be connected?

1851 Scotland Censusabout Andrew McFadyean
Name: Andrew McFadyean
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William McFadyean
Mother's name: Agnes McFadyean
Gender: Male
Where born: Inch, wigton
Parish Number: 890
Civil parish: Kirkmaiden
Town: Porthogan
County: Wigtownshire
Address: No 33
ED: 3
Page: 12 (click to see others on page)

Household schedule number: 46
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1851_215
Household Members: Name Age
William McFadyean 31 born: Inch, wigton (Occupation: Ag Lab)
Agnes McFadyean 25 born: Inch, wigton
Andrew McFadyean 4
Margaret McFadyean 2
Mary McFadyean 1
Mary Mcwilliam 52 - Mother
Janet McFaydean 34 - Sister

................or maybe just a coincidence?

Denise,
This is the family on the 1861 and 1871 return.
Martha b 1842 and Andrew b 1847 are the ONLY Irish born children in the family.
The next one named Agnes was born in Lanarkshire circa 1851
which means they moved from Ireland to Scotland between 1847 and circa 1851.
I cannot locate an Irish McFadyen/McCracken marriage or the births of their Irish born children


1861 Scotland Census
about William Mcfadgen
Name: William Mcfadgen
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 651/1
Registration district: Airdrie
Civil parish: New Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 59 Bell St
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 9
Household schedule number: 52
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1861_117
Household Members: Name Age
William Mcfadgen 50
Martha Mcfadgen 19
Andrew Mcfadgen 16
Agnes Mcfadgen 10
James Mcfadgen 9
Ann Mcfadgen

1871
Name: Andrew Mcfadyen
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 651/1
Registration district: Airdrie
Civil parish: New Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 28 Flowerhill St
Occupation: Miner
ED: 18
Household schedule number: 69
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1871_147
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Mcfadyen 24
William Mcfadyen 3
John Mcfadyen 1
Susan McGushan

Anne
EDIT.
This should mean that Agnes McFadyen ms McCracken died in Lanarkshire sometime after the birth of her youngest child Ann McFadyen b 1854 .
Hopefully she died in 1855, death records from that year hold a wealth of info, including place of birth!

There is a birth matching the criteria for Andrew at the link below but you have to buy credits to view the full details


http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/quis.php?page=0&prevStartQuery=0

Hi Catherine, I think this is the right family.

Thanks for your help. Can I ask if it states where Andrew was born?

Thanks again

851 Scotland Census
Name: William Mcfadden
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Nancy Mcfadden
Gender: Male
Where born: Doummaul, Ireland <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Parish Number: 651
Civil parish: New Monkland
Town: Airdrie
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 14 Wellwynd St
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 12A
Page: 3 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 6 1/2
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1851_170
Household Members: Name Age
William Mcfadden 36
Nancy Mcfadden 34 <<<Nurse
Margt Mcfadden 14 <<Seamstress
William Mcfadden 11
Matslda Mcfadden 8
Andrew Mcfadden 6
Nancy Mcfadden 1
Robert Kenny 36
William Kenny 20


When and where did Andrew marry?

The family on 1851 return found by Gins is the same as 1861 family
William and Nancy/Agnes appear to have 4 Irish and 3 scots born children

Margaret b 1837 Ireland
William b 1840 Ireland
Martha / Matilda b 1843 Ireland
Andrew b 1845 Ireland
Agnes/Nancy b 1850 Airdrie/ New Nonkland
James b 1852 New Monkland
Ann b 1854 New Monkland

With his 2nd wife

1881 Scotland Census
about Andrew McFayden
Name: Andrew McFayden
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Susan McFayden
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 651/1
Registration district: Airdrie
Civil parish: New Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 1 Gourlays Lane
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 26
Household schedule number: 106
Line: 22
Roll: cssct1881_263
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew McFayden 24
Susan McFayden 32
William McFayden 13
John McFayden 11
Andrew McFayden 9
Susan McFayden 7
Agnes McFayden 3
Sarah McFayden 4 Mo

Thanks for all your information guys. Sorry I haven't been able to respond so quickly. I will look over it tonight and keep you updated.

Many thanks for your time.

Denise

Thanks for all your information guys. Sorry I haven't been able to respond so quickly. I will look over it tonight and keep you updated.

Many thanks for your time.

Denise

It could be that he married again but your best bet is to check Scotlands People

Or, it could be that Nancy/Agnes are the same person :-S

Sorry deleted my posting by mistake:-

I thought Andrew"s mother was Agnes?

Gin's 1851 shows mother as Nancy, so does that mean that William married twice?

Nancy is of course another form of Agnes so you're right, they could very well be the same person.

You hold off that delete button Catherine ;-)


Have a look at Rootsire, see what you can find....link above

Hi Catherine,
It took me time to work this out too!

Andrew was the son of William McFadyen and Agnes/Nancy McCracAAnneken
His mother Agnes/Nancy must have died between 1854 and 1861
His father William died in1869

It was Andew bc 1845 who married twice
1st marriage ( circa 1866) to Mary Currens was short and as a widower, he and his children with Mary appear on the 1871 return.
By 1881 he has remarried ( circa 1872) to Susan and the additional kids are from this marriage

Anne

Hi Anne, Catherine and Gins

Thanks for your help. Yes nancy is another name for Agnes so you are definitely right there.

Again thanks everyone for your invaluable help as I couldn't have gotten further back without you. I shall add your additional information to my family tree.

I think I have been looking Agnes instead of nancy thats why i haven't found anything.

Denise

Just had a look for Doummaul in Ireland but it doesn't exist? DO you think it could be Donegal?

Might be best to obtain a copy of the 1851 census and try to read the birthplace for yourself.

Anne

Doummaul, Ireland - perhaps is Drummaul ?