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Hi all,

Could someone do a look-up on Ancestry for me in the Canadian 1911 Census please?

Henry S Alderson b 1874 Holdenby, Northants,England and looks to be residing at New Westminster, British Columbia in 1911.

Any information that is supplied on the Census would be much appreciated.

Many thanks

Janet

1911?
Edit - On the image he is listed as English as is his wife. Listed as a C Engineer

Name: Henry S Alderson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 36
Birth Date: Aug 1874
Birthplace: British Columbia
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Lena Alderson
Tribal: English
Province: British Columbia
District: New Westminster
District Number: 11
Sub-District: Dewdney Riding, Mission Municipality
Sub-District Number: 42
Place of Habitation: Ferndale
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry S Alderson 36
Lena Alderson 35 b Dec 1875

Many thanks K. Unfortunately it's not the correct person. Was a long shot, but didn't pay off this time :-(

Is anything else supplied in Canada that is accessable like electorial registars etc?

I know Henry S Alderson emigrated to British Columbia in January 1911 with his wife Julia. It's possible that they were still travelling at the time of the Census, but was worth a try.

Janet

Could this be the couple?

Name: Henry Spencer Alderson
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1875
Death Age: 73
Death Date: 8 Mar 1948
Death Location: Duncan
Registration number: 1948-09-003194
BCA Number: B13196
GSU Number: 2032480

Name: Julia C W Alderson
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1876
Death Age: 82
Death Date: 23 Aug 1958
Death Location: Duncan
Registration number: 1958-09-009473
BCA Number: B13238
GSU Number: 2033179

Hi K,

Just seen the edit on your original post and Henry was a Civil Engineer so could well be the right person. His wife's name is the stumbling block though, unless it's a 'pet' name or a shortened version on Julia's middle name Charlotte. The death record is definately his though as I already have this info :-D

Thanks for the help.

Janet

Yes K that is them :-D

The image does on the census look like Lena but the writing is not too good

The birth date on the census for Lena is the correct one for Julia as she was born Dec 1875! I think it's too much of a coincidence for it not to be the right couple.

Thanks K :-D

http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/index.jsp
1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / British Columbia / New Westminster / 42 Dewdney Riding / page 4 split view
8 32 Alderson Henry S. M Head M Aug 1874 36
9 32 Alderson Lela F Wife M Dec 1875 35

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001939913.pdf
[I read her name as Lelia - not Julia - there's a John following the couple, and a Daughter preceeding, and the enumerator's J's & u's are ordinary]
[Ferndale is part of the Municipality of Mission, abt 70km E of Vancouver]
Nominal census day was 1/6/1911 - the actual enumeration was 3/6/1911 here, but was supposed to reflect the status on the nominal census day.


Marriages Jun 1902 (>99%)
Alderson Henry Spencer Fulham 1a 712
French Arthur Edward Fulham 1a 712
Moeser Julia Wilhelmina C Fulham 1a 712
WOODS Edith Emily Fulham 1a 712

Births Mar 1876 (>99%)
MOESER Julia Charlotte W Pancras 1b 6

With 6 wks to rego a birth, a Dec 1875 birth is not incompatble with a 1876q1 rego.


http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-2A658E6/gbsearch/Births,Marriages,Deaths


http://bccfa.islandnet.com//homepage.html
Name Cemetery Location Region Reference
ALDERSON, Henry Spencer St Peter's Anglican, Quamichan (Burial Register) Duncan Vancouver Island MC-138-BR
ALDERSON, Henry Spencer (h/o Julia C. W.) St Peter's Anglican, Quamichan Duncan Vancouver Island MC-138
ALDERSON, Julia C. W. (w/o Henry S.) St Peter's Anglican, Quamichan Duncan Vancouver Island MC-138

Hi mgnv,

Thank you so much for supplying the links so that I could look at the images. Although a lot of what is on the 1911 Census is the same as the information I have I don't think these are the same people. The name definately looks like Lelia.

The birth of Julia C.W. Moeser is correct as is the marriage to Henry Alderson. I know they travelled to British Columbia, Canada in January 1911 and if the journey by ship took months they may not have arrived in time for the census taking. Excuse my ignorance but are the dates for the Canadian census read as dd/mm/yy or mm/dd/yy?

Thanks again for your help

Janet

(this couple go out)

Name: Hy S ALDERSON
Date of departure: 6 January 1911
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Saint John NB, Canada
Passenger destination: Saint John NB, Canada
Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Labr
Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 11
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage
Julia ALDERSON Page 9 of 11
Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
GRAMPIAN
124220
J Williams
Allan Line Steamship Co Ltd
Saint John NB, Canada
18278
6119
395


Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Lena Alderson
Name: Lena Alderson
Gender: Female
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Date of Arrival: 14 Jan 1911
Vessel: Grampian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Grampian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4738

(wife of Henry, Engineer, think the 'L' should be a J, image not clear)

Chris :)


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Henry Spencer Alderson
Name: Henry Spencer Alderson
Probate Date: 13 Oct 1948
Death Date: 8 Mar 1948
Death Place: British Columbia
Registry: Exeter

(of 1, Duncan, Vancouver Island. Probate to Julia Charlotte Wilhemina Alderson widow. Effects £155 2s 1d in England)


(a google search of his name brings up a couple of items)

Hi Chris

Thank you so much for the additional information especially the Probate
:-D

Now to work out if Lena is a completely different person or not!

Janet

From CH's post from FMP's "Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960" or somesuch, and from Ancestry's "Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935", we see she gets on the boat as Julia, and gets off as Lena (although that image is so poor, it's hard to tell what it says). It's not unusual for folk to alter their forenames when they come to N America, although I've never pinned it down to a 9-day timeslot before. In my family, it's usually been adding a mid-name, often a maiden surname of a rellie, or maybe changing from Francis to Frank in all circumstances - a complete forename change like you've got is rarer, but not unheard of.

If you've not seen Ancestry's image, there's a free version at LAC (I think with a lower resolution). Look up the ship at: in 1911 at:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/001045-100.01-e.php
Pick the right trip, and you want image 5 of 17 - they're on the first 2 lines - the clearest part of their entry is the modification of Henry's intended occupation to "Civil engineer". Just to the left, you can see their intended destination is "Mont'l Quebec". Back on image 1, we can see that there were trains available to take them onward - Grand Trunk had a regular scheduled train that afternoon (to Quebec City?) and CPR laid on a special after lunch (to Montreal?).

Some 50+ years later, I came by boat to NY - we had 5 nights at sea, and 5 time zones to cross (Halifax is just 4) - it meant you could stay up late chatting and boozing, and still get up in time for breakfast - very civilized.