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Hi
Is there anyone with a John Tierney in there Family Tree.
Born 1873-1879 died 1941.
Married Florence E Rose on 22nd of may 1909 in Oldham.
On the Marriage cert he says is age is 30 but died in 1941 when he was 68 this is were 1873-1879 for is birth comes in, not sure of exact date.
Can pin him down on the 1911 cencus living in Oldham but nothing before that except he says he was born in Preston Lancs.
Family say he came from County Cork but not sure of this either.

Been on another board and got a lot of info saying he may have come from around Liverpool but not sure if i have the right one.

Thanks for your help.

Use the search tree's facility to see if anyone has him in their tree,

Was he with family on the 1911census have you tried name variants and spellings to find him on earlier census's

Age on deaths can often be out depending on who the informant was and their knowledge of the deceased

His fathers name should be on the marriage cert that should help to find and confirm his birth also them together on the 1881/91 and possibly the 1901 census

Births Jun 1873

Tierney John Preston 8e 524

Births Sep 1879

Tierney John Liverpool 8b 182

Roy

There is another John Tierney on 1911 census, born 1873 Preston - so we need to be careful here!!
As PP says, what is his father's name and occupation?
Jan

Hi

Thanks for that. On the Marriage cert is Fathers name Is John Tierney Deceased. He is my Granddad so the 1911 cencus i know is correct with my Grandma and Uncle on the list.

Need to do more digging i think see if i can get accurate facts.

Thanks again

Do you have an address for him on the marriage cert, and names of witnesses?
Jan

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about John Joseph Tierney
Name: John Joseph Tierney
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1909
Registration district: Oldham
Inferred County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 1242

Is this the marriage?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Florence Eliza Rose
Name: Florence Eliza Rose
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1909
Registration district: Oldham
Inferred County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 1_42

On the Marriage cert it says he lived at 20 Chapel Strret Oldham.
Witnesses were W. Mc Guiness and Florence Devall.

Thats the Marriage Thelma.

Darren

you say the 1911 census is correct is it this one?

Name: John Tierney
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 6 Brunswick St Oldham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Mule Spinner
Registration district: Oldham
Registration District Number: 469
Sub-registration district: Oldham Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Piece: 24491
Household Members:
Name Age
John Tierney 32
Florence Tierney 21
John Tierney 2
Veronica Tierney 2/12

As John filled in the Census Return himself and his age corresponds with the age on his marriage certificate you have to assume he is correct and that the age on death is not

it looks like 20 Chapel Street was a lodging house in 1911 so that doesn't help

That is the right cencus form.
Not sure if he filled it in himself but it corresponds with the Marriage cert.
Found the Burial and Florence Tierney bought the plot in 1941 and John Tierney the first entry but at age 68.

Thats interesting 20 Chapel Street a lodging house. Mum said he came from County Cork, wounder if they went back to Ireland when he was born and he came back over here when he was older.

The 1911 census is all filled in with the same handwriting i.e. the same person has written it. If John had not filled it in but someone else had done it for him that person should have signed and put that he had done so on the behalf of the householder.

Oh right. Think he must have filled it in then. That means is age on it must be right .