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Looking for the marriage of David WILLIAMS to Mary (possible surname RUDGE. It would be between 1820 & 1831 when 1st known child was born. I am sure it would have taken place in Wales - possibly Montgomery area - before the family moved to Shropshire.
Any help greatly appreciated
Regards
Kay

Have you tried familysearch.org?

It's a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack, isn't it, with a combination of the names David Williams and Mary, especially when you are not sure of Mary's surname. Do you have any idea where in Montgomeryshire the marriage might have taken place?

Morning Adeline,

As you say Williams and Mary - not a good combination, then add Wales and 'Ag Lab' into the mixing pot!!
I know (according to census details) both were born Newtown as were their first two children. Unfortunately that is about all I have
Regards
Kay

Do you know what year David Williams was born? I have found that most of my ancestors were married when the man was around 21 (although obviously this isn't the same for everyone). His birth year would possibly help narrow down the marriage year.

Did they have any children born after 1837 whose births may have been registered?

Kath. x

Hi Kath he was born around 1803 and Mary about 1811 both in Newton Child born after '37 JOHN! 1840 and RICHARD 1843 both in Shiffnal, Shropshire not managed to find birth details for either yet!
Regards
Kay

IS THIS THE FAMILY IN 1851? :-

1851 census transcription details for: Dawley Green, Great Dawley, Salop

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1988
Folio: 89
Page: 27
Reg. District: Madeley
Sub District: Dawley
Parish: Great Dawley
Enum. District: 2D
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Salop

Address: Dawley Green, Great Dawley, Salop
County: Shropshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

WILLIAMS, David Head Married M 48 1803 Waggoner For Timber Dealer
Newtown, Montgomeryshire
WILLIAMS, Mary Wife Married F 41 1810
Newtown, Montgomeryshire
WILLIAMS, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 20 1831 Iron Stone Picker
Newtown, Montgomeryshire
WILLIAMS, Henry Son M 17 1834 Waggoner For Timber Dealer
Newtown, Montgomeryshire
WILLIAMS, John Son M 11 1840
Shiffnal, Salop
WILLIAMS, Richard Son M 8 1843 Scholar
Shiffnal, Salop
WILLIAMS, Hannah Daughter F 5 1846 Scholar
Shiffnal, Salop

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If so then this looks like the daughter Hannah's birth (the certificate would give her mother's maiden name which would help with the search for the marriage):-

Name: WILLIAMS, Hannah
Registration district: Shifnal
County: Shropshire
Year of registration: 1846
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 18
Page no: 165

Kath. x

This looks like Richard's birth:-


Name: WILLIAMS, Richard
Registration district: Shifnal
County: Shropshire
Year of registration: 1843
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 18
Page no: 160

and John's:-


Name: WILLIAMS, John
Registration district: Shifnal
County: Shropshire
Year of registration: 1840
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 18
Page no: 149

Kath. x

Hi Kath
You are an angel! Yes that is the family in '51 - I will bite the bullet and sent up for one of them and hope I have the right one! Then maybe I'll find the marriage
Thank you very much
Kay

Only posting this because it sounds Welsh , it could be a Possible Marriage

Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
about David Williams Name: David Williams
Spouse: Mary Tombs
Spouse Comments: St Panls p. Grmarter
Marriage Date: 1830
Parish: Llanely CA??M

Wonder if he married after the birth of some of his children.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about David Williams Name: David Williams
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1841
Registration district: Newtown
Inferred County: Montgomeryshire, Powys
Volume Number: 27
Page Number: 145

Married Mary Hughes

Hi,
Reason I thought he could have married a Mary Rudge is because the
1861 CENSUS shows the following: Swan Village, Sedgley, Staffordshire: Mary Rudge 50 is the widowed hd b. Staffordshire with son Richard Williams 17 Pudler in Ironwork b. Dawley Green, Shropshire?, daughters Hannah Williams 14 b. Snifnall Shropshire, Ann Williams 9 b. Dawley Green, Shropshire
regards
Kay