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Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 14 Send Message	Kathleen	Report	28 Jun 2012 18:12
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 14 Send Message	Hi, Reason I thought he could have married a Mary Rudge is because the 1861 CENSUS shows the following: Swan Village, Sedgley, Staffordshire: Mary Rudge 50 is the widowed hd b. Staffordshire with son Richard Williams 17 Pudler in Ironwork b. Dawley Green, Shropshire?, daughters Hannah Williams 14 b. Snifnall Shropshire, Ann Williams 9 b. Dawley Green, Shropshire regards Kay
Member Since: June 2006 Posts: 3,108 Send Message	Susan	Report	28 Jun 2012 13:10
	Wonder if he married after the birth of some of his children. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about David Williams Name: David Williams Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1841 Registration district: Newtown Inferred County: Montgomeryshire, Powys Volume Number: 27 Page Number: 145 Married Mary Hughes
	Researching: Haycock ...London and Gloucestershire , Walters... South Wales and Gloucestershire , Lewis... South Wales , French ...Nottingham and Essex.
Member Since: June 2006 Posts: 3,108 Send Message	Susan	Report	28 Jun 2012 13:05
	Only posting this because it sounds Welsh , it could be a Possible Marriage Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837 about David Williams Name: David Williams Spouse: Mary Tombs Spouse Comments: St Panls p. Grmarter Marriage Date: 1830 Parish: Llanely CA??M
	Researching: Haycock ...London and Gloucestershire , Walters... South Wales and Gloucestershire , Lewis... South Wales , French ...Nottingham and Essex.
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 14 Send Message	Kathleen	Report	28 Jun 2012 11:52
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 14 Send Message	Hi Kath You are an angel! Yes that is the family in '51 - I will bite the bullet and sent up for one of them and hope I have the right one! Then maybe I'll find the marriage Thank you very much Kay
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 28,844 Send Message	KathleenBell	Report	28 Jun 2012 11:43
	This looks like Richard's birth:- Name: WILLIAMS, Richard Registration district: Shifnal County: Shropshire Year of registration: 1843 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no: 18 Page no: 160 and John's:- Name: WILLIAMS, John Registration district: Shifnal County: Shropshire Year of registration: 1840 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no: 18 Page no: 149 Kath. x
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 28,844 Send Message	KathleenBell	Report	28 Jun 2012 11:41
	IS THIS THE FAMILY IN 1851? :- 1851 census transcription details for: Dawley Green, Great Dawley, Salop National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 1988 Folio: 89 Page: 27 Reg. District: Madeley Sub District: Dawley Parish: Great Dawley Enum. District: 2D Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Salop Address: Dawley Green, Great Dawley, Salop County: Shropshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born WILLIAMS, David Head Married M 48 1803 Waggoner For Timber Dealer Newtown, Montgomeryshire WILLIAMS, Mary Wife Married F 41 1810 Newtown, Montgomeryshire WILLIAMS, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 20 1831 Iron Stone Picker Newtown, Montgomeryshire WILLIAMS, Henry Son M 17 1834 Waggoner For Timber Dealer Newtown, Montgomeryshire WILLIAMS, John Son M 11 1840 Shiffnal, Salop WILLIAMS, Richard Son M 8 1843 Scholar Shiffnal, Salop WILLIAMS, Hannah Daughter F 5 1846 Scholar Shiffnal, Salop ------ If so then this looks like the daughter Hannah's birth (the certificate would give her mother's maiden name which would help with the search for the marriage):- Name: WILLIAMS, Hannah Registration district: Shifnal County: Shropshire Year of registration: 1846 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no: 18 Page no: 165 Kath. x
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 14 Send Message	Kathleen	Report	28 Jun 2012 11:39
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 14 Send Message	Hi Kath he was born around 1803 and Mary about 1811 both in Newton Child born after '37 JOHN! 1840 and RICHARD 1843 both in Shiffnal, Shropshire not managed to find birth details for either yet! Regards Kay
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 28,844 Send Message	KathleenBell	Report	28 Jun 2012 11:28
	Do you know what year David Williams was born? I have found that most of my ancestors were married when the man was around 21 (although obviously this isn't the same for everyone). His birth year would possibly help narrow down the marriage year. Did they have any children born after 1837 whose births may have been registered? Kath. x
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 14 Send Message	Kathleen	Report	28 Jun 2012 11:28
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 14 Send Message	Morning Adeline, As you say Williams and Mary - not a good combination, then add Wales and 'Ag Lab' into the mixing pot!! I know (according to census details) both were born Newtown as were their first two children. Unfortunately that is about all I have Regards Kay
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 556 Send Message	Adeline	Report	28 Jun 2012 10:58
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 556 Send Message	Have you tried familysearch.org? It's a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack, isn't it, with a combination of the names David Williams and Mary, especially when you are not sure of Mary's surname. Do you have any idea where in Montgomeryshire the marriage might have taken place?
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 14 Send Message	Kathleen	Report	28 Jun 2012 10:51
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 14 Send Message	Looking for the marriage of David WILLIAMS to Mary (possible surname RUDGE. It would be between 1820 & 1831 when 1st known child was born. I am sure it would have taken place in Wales - possibly Montgomery area - before the family moved to Shropshire. Any help greatly appreciated Regards Kay

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