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1901 & 1911 Census search please.

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Peter

Peter Report 23 Jun 2012 20:57

Could anyone do a 1901 & 1911 Census search please. I am trying to locate details for William James born c1877 in Litchurch, Derby. Litchurch Derby was an area in Derby, not to be confused with Litchurch Staffordshire.
In 1900 he was living in Derby. He was living in Grantham after 1900 with his wife Betsy Milward born c1878.
It would really be appreciated if someone could kindly find the census details for William & others in his household & addresses for 1901 & 1911.
Many thanks

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 23 Jun 2012 21:02

Is this the right one?

I did input Litchurch as the location

1911 Census Household Record
Household information
Address 25 Litchurch St Derby
Parish Derby
Town Derby
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 5
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN20890 RG78PN1247A RD435 SD2 ED19 SN180
Administrative County Derbyshire
Registration District Derby
Registration Sub District Derby
Enumeration District 19
Householder 1
Name John James
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 59
Estimated Year of Birth 1852
Occupation Brass Founders Helper
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry M R Loco
Place of Birth Gloucster Turk Dean
Householder 2
Name Sarah James
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Total Children Born Alive 4
Children Still Living 3
Children Who Have Died 1
Gender F
Age 54
Estimated Year of Birth 1857
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Derby
Householder 3
Name William James
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 33
Estimated Year of Birth 1878
Occupation Motor Engineer
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Royce Rolls Coy
Place of Birth Derby
Householder 4
Name Cyril James
Relationship to Head of Household Grandson
Gender M
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1906
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Burton On Trent Staffs
Householder 5
Name Thomas Duaycott
Relationship to Head of Household Boarder
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 23
Estimated Year of Birth 1888
Occupation Locomotive Fireman
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry M Railway
Place of Birth Leicester
Householder 6
Name Alfred William Earl
Relationship to Head of Household Boarder
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 20
Estimated Year of Birth 1891
Occupation App Electrical Engineer
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry M R E Dept
Place of Birth Derry Bellarena
Householder 7
Name William Roeve
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Gender M
Age 54
Estimated Year of Birth 1857
Occupation Railway Labourer
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry M R W W Dept
Place of Birth Harts Hamstead

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 23 Jun 2012 21:05

I can't find him on the 1901 but I regularly can't find people on that one.

MillymollyAmanda

MillymollyAmanda Report 23 Jun 2012 21:09

1901 ?

Address is 28 Victoria St and James is down as a Fitter ...steam engine
Name: William James
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Betsy James
Gender: Male
Where born: Derby, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Spittlegate
Ecclesiastical parish: Grantham St John the Evangelist and Spittlegate
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Grantham
Sub-registration district: Grantham North
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 154
Piece: 3055
Folio: 130
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
William James 23
Betsy James 22
Thomas H Millward 21
Jona Millward 19
Alice J Downing 45
Ladye B Downing 8
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Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Jun 2012 21:21

1911 England Census
about William James
Name: William James
Age in 1911: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Derby, England
Civil parish: Derby
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address: 25 Litchurch St
Occupation: Motor Engineer Rolls Royce Coy***********
Registration district: Derby
Registration District Number: 435
Sub-registration district: Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 20890
Household Members: Name Age
Jhon James 59
Sarah James 54
William James 33
Cycil James 5
Thomas Derrycott 23
Alfred William Earl 20
William Rowe 54


Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Jun 2012 21:27

Another version of 1911:-

JAMES, John Head Married M 59 1852 Brass Founders Helper Gloucster Turk Dean
JAMES, Sarah Wife F 54 1857 Derby
JAMES, William Son M 33 1878 Motor Engineer Derby
JAMES, Cyril Grandson M 5 1906 Burton on Trent Staffs
DUAYCOTT, Thomas Boarder Single M 23 1888 Locomotive Fireman Leicester
EARL, Alfred William Boarder Single M 20 1891 App Electrical Engineer Derry Bellarena
ROEVE, William Visitor M 54 1857 Railway Labourer Harts Hamstead

William noted as being married 11 yrs.
3 children all living.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Jun 2012 21:34

I can't find Betsy on the 1911.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Jun 2012 21:42

Mandy can you find Betsy on the 1911??

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Jun 2012 21:47

I can't find her either?
There is this that could fit

Deaths Mar 1907 (>99%)
JAMES Betsy 26 Nottingham 7b 181

but William is not noted as widow in 1911????

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Jun 2012 21:50

Yes I looked at that!

So what are the names of his children?????

Is Cyril the grandchild on the 1911 William's son?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Jun 2012 21:52

Peter - do you know William's date of birth?

The 1901 suggests he worked on the Railways and there are a few records in The Railway Employment Records that may cast some light.

MillymollyAmanda

MillymollyAmanda Report 23 Jun 2012 21:54

No Mel, carn't see her in the 1911

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Jun 2012 21:56

Yes!
William son of John (Head of household) and Cyril Grandson. He is noted just under William so presumably he is the son of William but it is not stated in the census that he is actually the son of William?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Jun 2012 22:00

I was only thinking out loud Catherine. I have viewed the 1911.

Peter

Peter Report 23 Jun 2012 22:02

To Update my thread.
Sorry only got William's dob as c1877. Didn't know about Betsy death but could be feasable. I think they had 2 children Ione & Gladys both c1902 but cannot confirm twins dates only about.
He worked at Rolls Royce for some time.
Don'y have anything at all about cyril
Hope this helps

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Jun 2012 22:08

Peter, could you confirm the twins names as( Lone) and Gladys ?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Jun 2012 22:13

I think the name is Ione (capital i):

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ione May James
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1901
Registration district: Grantham
Inferred County: Leicestershire, Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 488a

There are these births in Grantham, but nothing that looks like twins:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Jun 1901
JAMES Ione May Grantham 7a 488a

Births Sep 1902
James Gladys Bette Grantham 7a 499

Births Dec 1903
James John Grantham 7a 460

Births Sep 1906
James Lois Grantham 7a 460

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Jun 2012 22:16

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Gladys Bette James
Name: Gladys Bette James
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1902
Registration district: Grantham
Inferred County: Leicestershire, Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 499

Not twins

MillymollyAmanda

MillymollyAmanda Report 23 Jun 2012 22:19

1911 ??

Name: William James
Age in 1911: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Ranton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Gainsborough
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address: 151 Ropery Rd Gainsboro
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Flanging Furnace Man In Boiler Shop
Registration district: Gainsborough
Registration District Number: 425
Sub-registration district: Gainsborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 20148
Household Members:
Name Age
William James 41
Betsy Jane James 40
William Henry James 19
Gladys Evelyn James 14
Norah James 1
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Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Jun 2012 22:26

Found a marriage for Ione:-

Marriages Dec 1935 (>99%)
James Ione M O'Donovan Battersea 1d 810
O'Donovan Michael James Battersea 1d 810

.........but can't find her in 1911???