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Benjamin Lyon , Chester coal merchant

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Helix14

Helix14 Report 22 Jun 2012 22:38

Thank you very much for the pages of the Chester Chronicle. On scrutinising them--how interesting they are, a real picture of life in those days--it seems to be Mr Lyons who is involved, not Lyon. But he is a coal merchant among his other trades. I still can't reconcile it with the death Cert of Mary Lyon in 1851, "wife of Benjamin Lyon."
The Mr Lyons here signed his Will Lyons, so it can't just be a spelling mistake....
Yes, the Will is the one I have for Benjamin Lyons, cement manufacturer. He died in 1872, leaving whatever was left to Eliza.
Thank you, please share any ideas you may have,
from Helix 14.

Helix14

Helix14 Report 22 Jun 2012 22:47


From: Helix14

10:21 PM




Thank you very much for the pages of the Chester Chronicle. On scrutinising them--how interesting they are, a real picture of life in those days--it seems to be Mr Lyons who is involved, not Lyon. But he is a coal merchant among his other trades. I still can't reconcile it with the death Cert of Mary Lyon in 1851, "wife of Benjamin Lyon."
The Mr Lyons here signed his Will Lyons, so it can't just be a spelling mistake....
Yes, The Will record is familiar. It is signed By Benjamin Lyons with the "s." He leaves whatever he had left to Eliza, and in the event of her prior death, to his sister-in-law, so cutting his children out thoroughly.
Thank you, please share any ideas you may have,
from Helix 14.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jun 2012 23:01

Hi Helix, it is definitely not unusual that the names Lyon and Lyons were interchangeable - it's a fairly commonplace thing.

I'm probably more surprised that we haven't seen Lion(s), Lines, and various other interpretations.

I'm quietly confident that Benjamin Lyon and Benjamin Lyons are one and the same person.

I just love the old newspaper articles, they really give you a feel for the period. On the articles I sent, the creditors notices are in the name of Lyons but the house sale is Lyon - but they are the same person.

One of the things I've learned in recent years is not to expect our ancestors to be as precise as we are when it comes to names, ages, birthplaces, occupations.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jun 2012 23:21

You've now been given info about Benjamin's father - try looking on the IGI for a baptism

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

Nothing particularly unusual or significant about the son not being mentioned in the Will.

Also, be flexible in your thinking about names etc for those days.


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Jun 2012 17:24

I am so pleased this baptism proves my point about the name variations!

England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000
name: Benjamin Lion
event: Birth
event date: 15 Mar 1792
event place: Tattenhall, Cheshire, England
gender: Male
father: John Lion
mother: Elizabeth Malpas
film number: 2068755
digital folder number: 4018824
image number: 812

Source Citation
"England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F7PX-PBY : accessed 23 June 2012), Benjamin Lion, 1792.

Helix14

Helix14 Report 24 Jun 2012 10:37

Dear Marie Celeste, and other respondents,
Thank you very much for all the information and advice. I had noted allotment's "late Christening" of John Hardman Lyons in Tattershall in 1829, and thought it evidence of another family--but perhaps I was wrong.
Thank you for explaining about the inaccuracies of name spellings of the period; I had not expected that so late in time.
Plenty of food for thought here!
Best wishes, from Helix14.