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28 Jul 2012 10:35 |
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Jill, as Anne has said, it isn't back to the drawing board. That is 99% certainly your Christina living with her paternal aunt in 1901 and listed with her aunt's surname of Lee. There was no offical adoption procedure at that time so Christina was probably known by her aunt's surname for convenience at the time but may have used her birth surname when she married.
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28 Jul 2012 09:21 |
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Jill After the death of her parents, Christina should be the child living with her maternal aunt Elizabeth Lee previously Rae. This child was a niece and born in Edinburgh
Repost of 1901 census
1901 Scotland Census about Christina Tom Lee Name: Christina Tom Lee Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Relationship: NIECE Gender: Female Where born: EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN Registration number: 447/1 Registration district: Markinch Civil parish: Markinch County: Fife Address: Woodside Occupation: Scholar ED: 7 Household schedule number: 21 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1901_144 Household Members: Name Age John Lee 48 Eliza Lee 48 Peter Lee 23 Maggie Lee 19 Christina Tom Lee 8
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28 Jul 2012 06:11 |
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Thanks for all your input. You were correct about Henry's wife Maggie. She died in 1892 of tuberculosis. She had previously married to someone Ross. Henry remarried in 1895 (Susan). All this is great but I think I have been barking up the wrong tree as to where my great aunt went after her parents deaths in 1899. I don't think it was the Christina with Henry. Ah well - back to the drawing board.
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3 Jul 2012 16:19 |
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Children born to John Rae and Margaret Henderson who married 31 Jul 1852 Falkland, Fife I cannot locate the births for the two elder children John and Elizabeth but these are the births for the others:
Agnes Rae 22 Apr 1857 Falkland, Fife George Rae 3 Feb 1859 Falkland, Fife William Rae 22 Nov 1860 Falkland, Fife Margaret Rae 12 Sep 1863 Markinch, Fife Maria Greig Rae 25 May 1865 Markinch, Fife Helen Rae 18 Jun 1867 Markinch, Fife
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3 Jul 2012 13:56 |
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Had a wee look at some Ancestry trees.One owner has info that looks about right...
ELIZABETH HENDERSON RAE b 1855 Falkland, Fife daughter of John Rae and Margaret Henderson ( corresponds with census data from 1871 and 1881) Married John Lee(s) 4 Dec 1885 in Markinch.
The child named Peter Dalrymple or Dryburgh Rae b 1878 and Maggie b 1883 have been included as children from this marriage, but think they are more likely to be Elizabeth's own children from a previous relationship
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3 Jul 2012 13:15 |
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Nice work Anne, I am sure that is her. As you say it has probably been mistranscribed but Jill can look at the original image on Scotlandspeople if she wants to be sure.
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3 Jul 2012 13:02 |
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These may eventually prove to tie in with your Rae family.
Markinch burials
RAE, CHRISTIAN: spouse of James McIntosh jnr in Markinch;
19 Oct 1823; left side of [dau], Ann McIntosh, int 23 Oct
1815 (No 43, 1815)
RAE, HELEN: widow of Robert Carmyle at Northhall; 23 Aug 1854;
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3 Jul 2012 12:59 |
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Searched only fror a child called Christina Jane ( no surname entered) b 1892 Edinburgh, and looked at any who were living in Markinch Fife! I strongly suspect that this census is mistranscribed and the original says Christina Jane or Christina Taylor rather than TOM
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3 Jul 2012 12:54 |
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That looks fairly hopeful Anne! The Eliza Lee is about the correct age to be the sister Elizabeth of John Rae and her birthplace is the same as his brother George's.
Same family in 1891 - so well done Anne!
Name: Peter Rae Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relationship: Stepson Mother's name: Elizabeth Rae Gender: Male Where born: Markinch, Fifeshire Registration number: 447 Registration district: Markinch Civil parish: Markinch County: Fife Address: Woodside Occupation: Scholar ED: 5 Household schedule number: 51 Line: 9 Roll: CSSCT1891_137 Household Members: Name Age John Lee 35 Papermaker, b. Kingskettle, Fifeshire Elizabeth Rae 35 Formerly Millworker, b. Falkland, Fifeshire Peter Rae 13 Maggie Rae 8 Stepdaughter, b. Markinch, Fifeshire David Ridell 3 Nephew, b. Markinch, Fifeshire
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3 Jul 2012 12:54 |
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The same family again... this follows the 1871 census found by rootgatherer. It would prove that Christina lived with her paternal aunt, Elizabeth Lee MS Rae
1881 Scotland Census about Elizabeth Rae Name: Elizabeth Rae Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: John Rae Gender: Female Where born: Falkland, Fifeshire Registration number: 447 Registration district: Markinch Civil parish: Markinch County: Fife Address: Woodside Occupation: Paper-Mill Worker ED: 5 Household schedule number: 52 Line: 15 Roll: cssct1881_124 Household Members: Name Age John Rae 52 Elizabeth Rae 26 Agnes Rae 24 George Rae 22 Peter Rae 3
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3 Jul 2012 12:36 |
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Look at the address on the 1901 census from rootgatherer where he found 11 yr old William with his uncle George
This is another property at the SAME address: Is this Christina?
1901 Scotland Census about Christina Tom Lee Name: Christina Tom Lee Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Relationship: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Edinburgh, Midlothian Registration number: 447/1 Registration district: Markinch Civil parish: Markinch County: Fife Address: Woodside Occupation: Scholar ED: 7 Household schedule number: 21 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1901_144 Household Members: Name Age John Lee 48 Eliza Lee 48 Peter Lee 23 Maggie Lee 19 Christina Tom Lee 8
EDIT I think there is a possible a connection here. This is the same family at 1891 and the household contains people named RAE. Is Elizabeth Rae the connection ?
1891 Scotland Census about Peter Rae Name: Peter Rae Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relationship: Stepson Mother's name: Elizabeth Rae Gender: Male Where born: Markinch, Fifeshire Registration number: 447 Registration district: Markinch Civil parish: Markinch County: Fife Address: Woodside Occupation: Scholar ED: 5 Household schedule number: 51 Line: 9 Roll: CSSCT1891_137 Household Members: Name Age John Lee 35 Elizabeth Rae 35 Peter Rae 13 Maggie Rae 8 David Ridell 3
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3 Jul 2012 11:16 |
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Barbara with some of her siblings in 1861 - again you need to find them in 1901 in case Christina is listed under a different surname.
Name: Barbara J Taylor Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Taylor Mother's name: Jane Taylor Gender: Female Where born: Colinton, Edinburghshire Registration number: 705 Registration district: Dirleton Civil parish: Dirleton County: East Lothian Address: Gullane Lodge ED: 4 Household schedule number: 39 Line: 20 Roll: CSSCT1861_134 Household Members: Name Age Robert Taylor 36 Jane Taylor 32 William Taylor 8 Christina M Taylor 6 Barbara J Taylor 4 Robert Taylor 2 John Neeldk Taylor 6 Mo
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3 Jul 2012 11:12 |
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The Rae siblings in 1871 - so Christina could be living with any of the paternal aunts and listed under their married name? Have you found all John's sisters in 1901 please?
Name: George Rae Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relationship: Son Father's Name: John Rae Mother's name: Margaret Rae Gender: Male Where born: Falkland, fifeshire Registration number: 444 Registration district: Leslie Civil parish: Leslie County: Fife Address: Pitcairn Occupation: Scholar ED: 7 Household schedule number: 138 Line: 3 Roll: CSSCT1871_77 Household Members: Name Age John Rae 45 Margaret Rae 40 John Rae 18 Elizabeth Rae 16 Agnes Rae 14 George Rae 11 Margaret Rae 8 Mary Rae 6 Helen D 4
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3 Jul 2012 11:08 |
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Posting this to save others looking it up. I know that you have it but it gives the helpers more info. on the family.
1901 - John with maternal Uncle
Name: John Rae Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relationship: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: edinr, Midlothian Registration number: 685/5 Registration district: Newington Civil parish: Edinburgh Newington County: Midlothian Address: 7 Sciennes Occupation: Clothier's Apprentice ED: 71 Household schedule number: 90 Line: 2 Roll: CSSCT1901_387 Household Members: Name Age Alexander Taylor 36 Maggie Taylor 31 John Rae 16 1901 William with paternal Uncle
Name: William Rae Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Relationship: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Edinburgh, Midlothian Registration number: 447/1 Registration district: Markinch Civil parish: Markinch County: Fife Address: Woodside Occupation: Scholar ED: 7 Household schedule number: 36 Line: 8 Roll: CSSCT1901_144 Household Members: Name Age George Rae 41 Margaret Rae 45 Agnes Rae 19 John Rae 15 Maggie Rae 13 Robert Rae 10 George Rae 7 William Rae 11
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3 Jul 2012 11:02 |
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Is this them in 1891 please?
Name: Barbara Jane Rae Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : John Rae Gender: Female Where born: Colinton, Midlothan Registration number: 685A/2 Registration district: St George Burgh Civil parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts County: Midlothian Address: 37 Rosemount Bds ED: 90 Household schedule number: 37 Line: 5 Roll: CSSCT1891_337 Household Members: Name Age John Rae 38 Wood Sawyer, b. Fruchie, Fifeshire Barbara Jane Rae 32 b. Colinton, Midlothan John James Rae 6 b. Edinburgh William Robert Rae 1 b. Edinburgh
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3 Jul 2012 10:54 |
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Is this hthe one that you think may be her in 1901 please?
Name: Christina Taylor Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Relationship: Daur (Daughter) Father's Name: Henry C Taylor Mother's name: Susan Taylor Gender: Female Where born: Edinburgh, m lothian Registration number: 685/3 Registration district: Canongate Civil parish: Edinburgh St Margaret County: Midlothian Address: 15 Arthur St Occupation: Scholar ED: 52 Household schedule number: 62 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1901_379 Household Members: Name Age Henry C Taylor 35 Susan Taylor 36 Christina Taylor 10 Henry C Taylor 5 Mary Taylor 4 John Taylor 11 Mo Don't think that is your Christina. Her mother must have died and Henry remarried. That would explain the age gap for his children.
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Name: Henry C Taylor Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Maggie Taylor Gender: Male Where born: Edinburgh Registration number: 685/2 Registration district: St Andrew Civil parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts Town: Edinburgh County: Midlothian Address: No 3 No St James St Occupation: Gas Pipe Layer ED: 50 Household schedule number: 41 Line: 7 Roll: CSSCT1891_342 Household Members: Name Age Henry C Taylor 25 Maggie Taylor 23 Maggie Ross 6 Christina Taylor 3 Weeks
Can you post the 1891 census for her parents please? The names of her siblings would also help.
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3 Jul 2012 01:37 |
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Parents names of Christina were John and Barbara Jane nee Taylor. I am wondering if she was assimilated into a Taylor family as I found a Christina Jane Taylor on the 1901 census aged 10 with the next child at 5 then 2 more younger ones.
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11 Jun 2012 11:55 |
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Can you post the parents names and birth details and also the same for her brothers please
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11 Jun 2012 11:07 |
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Are you sure that Taylor was her middle name?
This is the only birth that I am seeing likely on SP
1892 RAE CHRISTINA JANE F ST GEORGE EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/01 2125
The one above seems to have died in Fife in 1950
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11 Jun 2012 02:03 |
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Have you tried Search Trees on this site?
If you find a possible match you can contact the tree owner to see if you have a connection.
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