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Name: Henry Mapledoran
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1892
Age at Death: 28
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume: 5b
Page: 105

I wonder, if their lives were somewhat disorganised as they seem to have been, whether that could be him and if he was away from home, perhaps, his age was not known?

Susannah remarried in 1896.

WESTERN TIMES - Wednesday 08 August 1883.

Henry Mapledorum and Elizabeth Mapledorum, his wife, of Tabernacle Court, Coombe Street, were charged with being drunk, using obscene language, &c, in that locality on the previous night.
PC Day hearing a row proceeded to the Court and found the husband using bad language to his wife, and soon they got fighting.
PC Koill being on duty in Quay Lane, hearing the noise, also witnessed the fighting of the pair, who were both drunk. The wife he considered worse than the husband, for if he gave her one blow she gave him two. They were taken to the Police Station to prevent further mischief.
Fined 2s 6d each and costs, the Chairman denounced their doing as most disgraceful, and expressing a hope that they would turn over a new leaf.

thanks for your help. I am hoping tp go to library soon-so will try nd have a look at some parish records/burials which may help clarify things a bit more too.

William the father was married to Mary in 1851 census and Emma in 1861 census, so this is probably the death of first wife

Deaths Sep 1855 (>99%)


Mapledorum Mary Exeter 5b [35]

Will have another look in the morning :-D

Mistranscribed as Mapledoran

1851 England Census
about Samuel E Mapledoran Name: Samuel E Mapledoran
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Mapledoran
Mother's name: Mary Mapledoran
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Exeter, Devon, England

Civil parish: Exeter St Paul
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Exeter
Sub-registration district: St David
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 1869
Folio: 185
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
William Mapledoran 35
Mary Mapledoran 32
James C Mapledoran 11 <<<<<
Mary J Mapledoran 9
William Mapledoran 6
Samuel E Mapledoran 2
John H Mapledoran 10 Mo <<<<<

So it looks like the Henry you have with his older brother James on the 1871 is the John Henry birth?

Name: William Henry Mapledoram
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1846
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 10
Page: 161 Theres this one but the years out

1861 England Census
about Henry Mapledoram Name: Henry Mapledoram
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Mapledoram
Mother's name: Emma Mapledoram
Gender: Male
Where born: Exeter

Civil parish: Exeter St Olave
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Exeter
Sub-registration district: St David
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 256
Piece: 1398
Folio: 134
Page Number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
William Mapledoram 45
Emma Mapledoram 20
Samuel Mapledoram 13
William M Mapledoram 15
Henry Mapledoram 11
Mary Jane Mapledoram 19
Emma Mapledoram 3
Federick Mapledoram 1

on find my past again-but can't view images- can anybody have a quick look at 51 and 61 and see if parents match 71? I'd be very grateful if anybody could clear up the henry/John mystery.


John H Mapledoram
England and Wales Census, 1851
birth: Exeter,? Devonshire
census: 1851 England

probable (On findmypast) but can't view image but looks likely as there aren't many with this surname in Exeter at that time


Henry Mapledoram
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 11
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Exeter
record type: Household
registration district: Exeter
sub-district: 2 St David
ecclesiastical parish:
civil parish: St Olave
county: Devonshire
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rambling rose-that does look good-I don't rememebr seeing any 'John's on anything-so he may well never have been called it!-and therefore whyw e can't find Henry-thanks.

he did exist!!!

got this on familysearch for 1871

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name: Henry Mapledoram
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 20
relationship to head of household: Brother
birthplace: Exeter, Devon
record type: Household
registration district: Exeter
sub-district: St Sidwell
event parish: Holy Trinity
county: Devonshire
Household Gender Age Birthplace
self James Mapledoram M 30 Exeter, Devon
wife Jane Mapledoram F 29 Exeter, Devon
daughter Louisa Mapledoram F 8 Exeter, Devon
daughter Ellen Mapledoram F 5 Exeter, Devon
brother Henry Mapledoram M 20 Exeter, Devon
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I wonder if Henry was this birth?

Births Jun 1850 (>99%)


Mapledorum John Henry Exeter 10 100

1881-this is the OTHER one-her husband is James Mapledoram-he's in prison!!!!!!!! but shes the paper bag maker.


Elizabeth Mapledoricon
[Elizabeth Mapledoram]
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Exeter
Civil parish: Exeter St Mary Arches
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: 14 Bartholamew Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Paper Bag Maker
Registration district: Exeter
Sub-registration district: Exeter Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2155

Margee I saw that one but the children don't match up?

aaaah thank you. henry is a flipping mystery though! Think he may have been born something else and just called henry!

although I had a feeing there were teo Elizabeth Mapledorams-so will have to triple check! tahnks very much-I am going to go now as going cross eyed and starting to type rubbish! night x

it is the WRONG one its an in-law-see below -drat!

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Maple Donson Name: Elizabeth Maple Donson
[Elizabeth Mapledoram]
[Elizabeth Maple Mapledoram]
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Exeter, Devon, England

Civil parish: Exeter
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Exeter
Sub-registration district: Exeter
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 65
Piece: 2042
Folio: 69
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Maple Donson 45
Elsie Donson 25
Violet Donson 16

The surname is Mapledoram. Elizabeth is a widow, a paper bag maker.

The odd thing is, unless I am missing it, I can't find a birth for Henry or a death

There is this
Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%)

Mapledoram Elizabeth Exeter 5b 209

thanks -yes thats Susannah. Buts its her Mum Elizabeth and Father Henry I am really trying to find (Although this is very helpful too)- they just seem to disappear!!

I know have Susanna and Freerick sdeaths and burials too thanks in 1946 and 1939 in Exeter.

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1911 England Census about Susannah Fursman
Name: Susannah Fursman
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Lancashire
Civil parish: Exeter
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Leat Terrace, Commercial Road, Exeter
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 15
Estimated Marriage Year: 1896
Occupation: Fish Hawker
Registration district: Exeter
Registration District Number: 271
Sub-registration district: Exeter
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 381
Piece: 12686
Household Members:
Name Age
Fredrick George Fursman 33
Susannah Fursman 34
Fredrick Charlese Fursman 14
Reginald Henry Fursman 13
Athur William Fursman 11
Albert Edward Victor Fursman 10
Winifred Bessie Mable Fursman 8
Violet May Fursman 4
Hilda Mand Fursman

Is this your lady

thanks. I have had a look on my Exeter burials site-and can't find Henry or Elizabeth/Bessie ! very odd as rest of family (Older ones) are all in Higher cemetery.

I have Susannah after this she married a Mr Frederick Fursman I think-but can't see her in 1911 either!