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- but this is all just supposition unless the 1873 marriage certificate shows Sam's father as George.

- and here is John:

John Reed born abt 1847 in Buckwall, Lincolnshire, England
Servant living in Embleton, Durham (again, Stockton reg district)

- so a possible registration for Elizabeth's death (bearing in mind Charlotte's birth around 1854) could be:

Name: Elizabeth Reed
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1859
Registration district: Stockton
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 46

This seems quite a good fit for the Bucknall family, despite the birth place being given as Buckworth:

Name: George Reed
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Buckworth, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Billingham
Town: Billingham
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Yarm
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 163
Piece: 3690
Folio: 52
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
George Reed 40 (Widower, joiner)
Susan Reed 15
Mary A Reed 19 (image says 10, not 19)
Charlotte Reed 7

- this would tie in with a move to Stockton for the 1861 entry found above by brummiejan.

Appearances of the Sibsey Sam:

1851 Sibsey: Samuel Reed (son of Robert, Sarah A) b abt 1847 in Sibsey
1861 Sibsey: Samuel Reed (son of Robert, Sarah A) b abt 1847 in Sibsey
1871 Sheffield: Samuel Reed (draper's asst) b abt 1847 in Sibsey
1881 Widnes: Samuel Reed (m to Mary A)b abt 1847 in Libsey
1891 West Derby: Samuel Reed (head) b abt 1848 in Sibsey

Name: Sam Read
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Read
Mother's name: Elizabeth Read
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Bucknall, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Bucknall
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Horncastle
Sub-registration district: Wragby
ED, institution, or vessel: 18

Household schedule number: 25
Piece: 2107
Folio: 165
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
George Read 29 (carpenter)
Elizabeth Read 30
Susan Read 5
John Read 4
Sam Read 3
Mary Ann Read 6 Mo

EDIT - as already posted by brummiejan above

Going by the geography, I'd keep the Bucknall lead in mind. Searching for Sam* Re*d born 1845 +/- 5 years in Lincolnshire identifies 2 or 3 individuals:

1. Born in Sibsey about 1847, turns up in Sheffield in 1871 as the draper's assistant and then moves to Lancashire

2. Born in Bucknall about 1848, seen in 1851 and 1861 and then disappears.

3. Your man, born in Wispington, first seen in 1881.

Both Bucknall and Wispington are between Horncastle and Lincoln and only a matter of 4 miles or so apart. Sibsey, on the other hand, is about 20 miles further to the south east.

It might be worth following the Bucknall family to see if this chap can be eliminated.

You really need his marriage cert for (hopefully!) the name of his father.
Jan

Thanks so much it gives me a new avenue to follow as I have other descendants that I know hit a wall with him.

I have seen the drapers assistant thread and am almost certain that is not him.
He did marry Ann Asquith.

I don't think the 1861 is him - there is another Samuel Reed who appears later in Sheffield as a draper's assistant.
Jan

Reference for the marriage certificate:-

Name: READ, Samuel
Registration district: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1873
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 131

MarriageFinder: Samuel Read married one of the following people:

ASQUITH, Ann<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
VAUX, Mary Ann
JACKSON, William

Kath. x

That's the same one as I came up with too Jan.

Kath. x

Possible, in view of where he was living later - but I think you should buy the marriage cert


1861 England Census

Name: Sam Reed
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Bucknall, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Norton
Ecclesiastical parish: Norton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Stockton

Joseph Maughan 57
Jane M Maughan 40
Joseph Maughan 16
Eliza Maughan 11
Barbara Maughan 9
George Maughan 7
Thomas B Maughan 2
Margret Maughan 5
Florence Morton 4
Margaret Lofthouse 19
Charles Outhwaite 22
Sam Reed 12

In 1901 he was living at 18,Cherry Lane Marshgate and in1911 3,School Terrace Marshgate.

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1851 England Census

Name: Sam Read
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Read
Mother's name: Elizabeth Read
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Bucknall, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Bucknall
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Horncastle
Sub-registration district: Wragby

George Read 29
Elizabeth Read 30
Susan Read 5
John Read 4
Sam Read 3
Mary Ann Read 6 Mo

1911 England Census about Samuel Reed
Name: Samuel Reed
Age in 1911: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Horncastle, Lincoln, England
Civil parish: Doncaster
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: East Laith Gate Doncaster
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Unemployed (Retired Ry Platelayer)
Registration district: Doncaster
Registration District Number: 512
Sub-registration district: Doncaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 28193
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Reed 66
Emily Reed 36
George Reed 31
Herbert Reed 29
Samuel Reed 27
Edith Reed 21
Ethel Reed 17
George Reed 9
Florie Reed 4
Harold Reed 1

I can't see him in 1911 either. Can you give the address he was at?

Kath. x

Sorry it was 1873 when he married ,he was born in 1846.

I can't see him 1911?

No I have not been able to find anything about them before they were married though I have her family traced .