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Hi

I am trying to find my great grandmothers name.
My grandmother, Jane Wilson, married my grandfather John William Hall on June 28th 1910 in South Shields. Her marraige certficate shows her father as William Henry Wilson and her dob as 1892. I cannot locate a Jane Wilson's birth cert with a William Henry Wilson as father and therefore am unable to locate her mother.
Any help would be appreciated

Does it give an occupation for her father? Who were the witnesses?

Kath. x

Have you looked for her in 1911 which may give a more accurate dob and place of birth

But she had married in 1910.

Have you located them on the 1911 cos i cant see them .

Well spotted Shirley. I will delete the 1911 census I found as it's obviously the wrong one and don't want to confuse David.

Kath. x

this is the only one in 1911 anywhere near the names:

Name: Mary Jane Hall
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil parish: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: 31 Hanover Place Deptford Sunderland
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Sunderland
Registration District Number: 555
Sub-registration district: Sunderland West
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Piece: 30171
Household Members:
Name Age
John William Hall 23 born Chatham Kent, occ; apprentice riveter
Mary Jane Hall 22
Thomas Henry Hall Under 9/12

The record RutlandBelle found says they have been married one year which seems to fit.

Kath. x

we need some feedback from David to see if occupation matches John William Hall

Thanks everyone for trying.
Fathers occupation was railrollerman(collery I think) there were no witnesses on the cert i saw.
I tried 1911 under married name. Nothing
John William Hall was a seaman from Shetland. I have his full history.

Thanks guys keep them coming :-)

A possible in 1901? Father is a coal miner, roller way man.

1901 England Census
about Jane E Wilson Name: Jane E Wilson
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Wilson
Mother's name: Charlotte Wilson
Gender: Female
Where born: Tyne Dock South Shields, Durham, England

Civil parish: Harton
Ecclesiastical parish: Harton All Saints
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 88
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 138
Piece: 4739
Folio: 36
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
William Wilson 37
Charlotte Wilson 33
Jane E Wilson 9
John Martin Wilson 7
Mary Mary 16

1911 census

Vessel: Sir Galahad S/s

Port/place: At The Bouyson On The River Whiks Tees Wear

HALL, John William Crew Married M 26 1885 Ab Seaman Lerwick Shetland

someone had filled in marriage and children for the entire crew, for John William no children are given but says married under one year

she may have fibbed about her age on the marriage cert?


what was John William Hall's mother called?

?? 1911 census

Address:213 South Palmerston Street South Shields

HALL, Jane Wife Married F 26 1885 Durham Shields
HALL, Barbara Ann Mother Widow F 53 1858 Shetland Derting

the top row is blank, possibly they were not sure if hubby would be back in time to complete it

original states Jane had been married under one year and no children born as yet

do any of these names sound familiar?

1891 census

Address:74, South Palmerston Street, Westoe, South Shields

WILSON, William Head Married M 37 1854 Goods Guard South Shields, Durham
WILSON, Mary Wife Married F 35 1856 South Shields, Durham
WILSON, John W Son M 13 1878 Scholar South Shields, Durham
WILSON, Richard Son M 10 1881 Scholar South Shields, Durham
WILSON, Jane Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar South Shields, Durham
WILSON, Mary A Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar South Shields, Durham
WILSON, Elizabeth Daughter F 2 1889 South Shields, Durham
WILSON, Edward Son M 0 (11M) 1891 South Shields, Durham
WILSON, Edward Lodger Single M 23 1868 General Laborer South Shields, Durham

I think this is the same family on 1901 census

Address:69, South Eldon Street, South Shields

WILSON, William Head Married M 47 1854 Railway Guard No Shields, Northumberland
WILSON, Mary Wife Married F 45 1856 Hartlepool, Durham
WILSON, Jane Daughter Single F 17 1884 South Shields, Durham
WILSON, Mary A Daughter Single F 15 1886 South Shields, Durham
WILSON, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 12 1889 South Shields, Durham
WILSON, Edward B Son M 11 1890 South Shields, Durham
WILSON, Catherine Daughter F 7 1894 South Shields, Durham
WILSON, Annie Daughter F 5 1896 South Shields, Durham
WILSON, Hilda Daughter F 3 1898 South Shields, Durham
WILSON, May Daughter F 1 1900 South Shields, Durham

and again on 1911 census

Address:44 Bertram Street South Shields

WILSON, William Head Married M 56 1855 Railway Shunter South Shields Durham
WILSON, Mary Wife Married30 years F 54 1857 South Shields Durham
WILSON, John William Son Married M 30 1881 Dock Labourer South Shields Durham
WILSON, Mary Elizabeth Daughter Married2 years F 22 1889 South Shields Durham
WILSON, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 23 1888 South Shields Durham
WILSON, Kate Daughter Single F 17 1894 South Shields Durham
WILSON, Edward Son Single M 20 1891 Dock Labourer South Shields Durham
WILSON, Annie Daughter Single F 14 1897 School South Shields Durham
WILSON, Hilda Daughter Single F 13 1898 School South Shields Durham
WILSON, May Daughter Single F 11 1900 School South Shields Durham
WILSON, Stanley Son Single M 9 1902 School South Shields Durham
WILSON, William Henry Godson Single M 1 1910 South Shields Durham
WILSON, Winnie Daughter Single F 7 1904 School South Shields Durham

what address does Jane give on her marriage cert?

I can't imagine that a marriage certificate wouldn't have witnesses named on it.

Kath. x

Once again thanks guys for all your hard work.

Margee, had checked that listing but the address in the 1911 census does not agree with the address at time of marraige.

Tempest, I am really excited at the one you found as Williams address in 1910 at the time of Janes wedding was 44 Betram St. It appears that Jane either didnt know or lied about her dob.
Once again thanks guys :-D

Dave

you're welcome