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Benjamin Ball

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WoodfortheTrees

WoodfortheTrees Report 6 Jun 2012 11:00

I am trying to find the birth for Benjamin Ball he married in 1802 to Hester or Esther Jelf at ST john the Baptist Church in Chaceley Worcs and went on to have several children the first of which was William in 1806 .I havs Hesters parents but can not find Benjamin Many thanks fo any help that can be given

Susan

Susan Report 6 Jun 2012 11:03

Just posting what I find ,this one could be a bit young.

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Benjamen Ball Name: Benjamen Ball
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1786
Christening Date: 13 Oct 1786
Christening Place: Longton, Staffordshire, England
Father's Name: Benjamen Ball

Susan

Susan Report 6 Jun 2012 11:07

IS this family any relation .

Name Residence
(ED, County) Birth Place Gender Age
View Record
Eliza Ball Tirley, Gloucester Gloucestershire, England, Tirley Female 5
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Maria Ball Tirley, Gloucester Gloucestershire, England, Tirley Female 0.41
View Record
Mary A. Ball Tirley, Gloucester Gloucestershire, England, Tirley Female 11
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Mary A. Ball Tirley, Gloucester Gloucestershire, England, Tirley Female 42
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Benjaman Ball Tirley, Gloucester Worcestershire, England, Chacely Male 45
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Benjaman Ball Tirley, Gloucester Gloucestershire, England, Tirley Male 13
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Charles Ball Tirley, Gloucester Gloucestershire, England, Tirley Male 6
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James Ball Tirley, Gloucester Gloucestershire, England, Tirley Male 8
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Joseph Ball Tirley, Gloucester Gloucestershire, England, Tirley Male 2
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Thomas Ball Tirley, Gloucester Gloucestershire, England, Tirley Male 20
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William Ball Tirley, Gloucester Gloucestershire, England, Tirley Male 18
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Mary A. Hawkins Tirley, Gloucester Gloucestershire, England, Tirley Female 18


Edit
Yes Sorry about that ,I did not totice the year missing,it was 1851

WoodfortheTrees

WoodfortheTrees Report 6 Jun 2012 11:08

Thankyou Susan but I think they were from Worcestershire as on marriage records it says otp which I think means of this parish but of course they might not have been born there ;-)

WoodfortheTrees

WoodfortheTrees Report 6 Jun 2012 11:12

Thankyou Susan yes they must be related as Chaceley has changed counties between Glouicestershire and Worcestershire my typing is slow as I am at home recovering from brain surgery so it may take me a while to respond but thankyou

WoodfortheTrees

WoodfortheTrees Report 6 Jun 2012 11:26

Thanki you Susan what census is that from I have 1841 census with Benjamin and Hester together with children William Benjamin Thomas Charles James Mary jeremiah born1817 who is my ancestor so not sure about otherfamily

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jun 2012 13:24

Chaceley is a couple of miles SW of Tewkesbury - a couple of miles further along the road is Tirley.

1841 for reference


Name: Hester Ball
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1776
Gender: Female
Where born: Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Chaceley
Hundred: Pershore (Lower Division)
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Tewkesbury
Sub-registration district: Deerhurst
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1204
Book: 4
Folio: 8
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Benn Ball 70 NOT born in County
Hester Ball 65
Chas Ball 25
Mary Ball 20
Timothy Parker 25
Jane Hill 12


Have you seen the record of the Administration of his Will?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jun 2012 13:29


Surname Given Names Age Year Died District Register Entry
BALL Benjamin 79 1849 Tewkesbury, Deerhurst 2 383

Born no later than 1770

WoodfortheTrees

WoodfortheTrees Report 6 Jun 2012 17:47

Thankyou Reggie left computer for a while as I needed a rest I could not find benjamins death so thsnkyou not sure how I would see record of administration of will. Te census Susan found must be of son Benjamin who married a Mary SAlcomb Thankyou to everyone for their help

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jun 2012 19:34

The info about the Will is on Ancestry

13th December, 1861.

Letters of Administration (with the Will annexed) of the Personal estate and effects of the late Benjamin Ball of Chaceley in the County of Worcester, Barge Owner, deceased, who died on or about 2nd March 1849 at Chaceley aforesaid and left unadministered by Hester Ball widow, the relict and one of the residuary legatees for life named in the said Will were granted at the Principal registry to Jeremiah Ball of Chaceley aforesaid, Barge Owner the son and one of the Residuary Legatees substituted in the said Will he having been first sworn
Former Grant Prerogative Court of Canterbury September, 1849

Effects: Under £200

The existence of the above means that you would be able to obtain a copy of the Will - should you so wish

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jun 2012 19:38

1861

Name: Hester Ball
Age: 88
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1773
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Chearley
Civil parish: Chaceley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Tewkesbury
Sub-registration district: Deerhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Piece: 1804
Folio: 26
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Hester Ball 88
Narinda Ball 20********


Surname Given Names Age Year Died District Register Entry

BALL Esther 89 1861 Tewkesbury, Deerhurst 4 333


Obviously, her death brought to light the Will which she had failed to deal with when her husband died - hence the action taken in Sept 1861

*******
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BALL Miranda BALL BALL ALLEN 1841 Cheltenham Tewkesbury, Deerhurst 1 456

Her parents

BALL Jeremiah ALLEN Harriet Cheltenham Deerhurst St Mary 1839 1 9


AND 1851

Name: Marinda Ball
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jeremiah Ball
Mother's name: Harriet Ball
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Deerhurst, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Deerhurst
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Tewkesbury
Sub-registration district: Deerhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Piece: 1974
Folio: 122
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Jeremiah Ball 34
Harriet Ball 27
Marinda Ball 10
Catherine Ball 2
Christopher Ball 6
Oliver Ball 2
Arthur Ball 4
Hannah Humble 19

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jun 2012 19:39

1851


Name: Hester Ball
Age: 78
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1773
Relation: Head
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Chaceley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Chasely
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Tewkesbury
Sub-registration district: Deerhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Piece: 1974
Folio: 88
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Hester Ball 78
Mary Ann Ball 34 dau
William Ball 10 g/son, b.Tirley***********


******Possible birth

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry

BALL William BALL BALL BAILISS 1840 Cheltenham Tewkesbury, Deerhurst 1 383

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jun 2012 20:01

Marinda's Probate

Name: Marinda Cresswell
Probate Date: 9 Nov 1927
Death Date: 27 Sep 1927
Death Place: Gloucestershire, England
Registry: Gloucester

Marinda, widow, of the Manor Farm Hempsted etc
Probate 9 November to John Matthews, farmer
Effects £3657 8s 9d


Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
CRESSWELL Herbert BALL Miranda Cheltenham Tewkesbury St Mary (The Abbey) 1862 3 30

WoodfortheTrees

WoodfortheTrees Report 7 Jun 2012 08:57

Thankyou Reggie For that information .My mother who still lives in Tewkesbury was interested to discover that achildhood friend might be related as she was a Cresswell Thankyou for your help

WoodfortheTrees

WoodfortheTrees Report 22 Aug 2012 14:30

Have been away for a while and just trying to find Benjamin Ball I wonder where the information on Ben Ball baptised in Staffordshire was found as I have looked on free reg and can not see it there on family search there are two marriages for Ben to Hester Jelf one is stated as being in Staffordshire is this a coincidence? Many thanks fo all ypur help