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Hi
Searching for details of john pickles who maybe married mally crabtree or mally sutcliffe in todmorden/halifax in around 1865 . John born 1841/42 in stansfield todmorden to abraham pickles and mary nee dean. abraham was a grocer. i have found john living with wife mally/molly aged 45 in 1881 i stansfield. And they have a daughter mary born 1870 approx.
If it helps, johns brothers include charles, young and abraham and alfred. Charles married rebecca, young married sarah barker in 1881 . Not certain which mally john married.
Can anyone out there help??
shirley
ps thinking it may be mally crabtree as she is older.

Looking at the possible 1865 marriage

Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%)
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Crabtree Mally Todmorden 9a 264
Dearden John Todmorden 9a 264
Horsfall Mary Ann Todmorden 9a 264
Pickles John Todmorden 9a 264



John Dearden married Mary ann Horsfall

Not yet looked at the image

Okay

John Pickles on the 1865 marriage is a weaver. Father Abraham is a grocer



Name: Mally Crabtree
Birth Year: abt 1836
Age: 29
Marriage or Bann Date: 23 Sep 1865
Parish: Heptonstall, St Thomas
Father's Name: William Crabtree
Spouse's Name: John Pickles
Spouse's Father's Name: Abraham Pickles



UPDATED
William Crabtree is a farmer
Mally gives her address as Lane-Top, Stansfield
John gives his address as Carhouse Fold, Stansfield ?

Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%)
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Cockcroft John Todmorden 9a 261
Pickles John Todmorden 9a 261
Sutcliffe Mally Todmorden 9a 261
Thomas Susey Todmorden 9a 261


Name: Mally Sutcliffe
Birth Year: abt 1807
Age: 58
Marriage or Bann Date: 23 Jul 1865
Parish: Heptonstall, St Thomas
Father's Name: William Sutcliffe
Spouse's Name: John Cockcroft
Spouse's Father's Name: John Cockcroft


Name: Susey Thomas
Birth Year: abt 1842
Age: 23
Marriage or Bann Date: 2 Aug 1865
Parish: Heptonstall, St Thomas
Father's Name: William Thomas
Spouse's Name: John Pickles
Spouse's Father's Name: William Pickles

Mally Crabtree
Birth: abt 1836 - Stansfield; Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Residence: 1851 - Stansfield, Yorkshire, England
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Mally Pickles
Spouse: John Pickles
Birth: abt 1836 - Stansfield, Yorkshire, England
Residence: 1871 - Stansfield, Yorkshire, England

Do you not have access to West Yorkshire marriages on Ancestry ?

Any feedback would be appreciated

For info.

1871

Name: John Pickles
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mally Pickles
Gender: Male
Where born: Stansfield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Stansfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Cross Stone St Paul
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Todmorden
Sub-registration district: Todmorden
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 206
Piece: 4330
Folio: 44
Page Number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
John Pickles 29
Mally Pickles 35 <<<<Molly in 1881
Mary Pickles 1

His wife's death?

Deaths Dec 1890 Pickles Mally 55 Todmorden 9a 177



His daughter's birth?

Births Jun 1869 Pickles Mary Todmorden 9a 221

Well you would never have thought that two had that christian name

Name: Mally Crabtree
Birth Date: 26 Jan 1838
Parish: Halifax, Cross Stone
Baptism Date: 13 Jun 1848
Father's Name: Henry Crabtree
Mother's name: Mary Crabtree

Henry is a fustian cutter

That might help with finding her in 1841 as the father and his occupation do not match the marriage cert so this one can be ruled out

1841 poss
Name: Malley Crabtree
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Stansfield
Hundred: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Lane Top

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Todmorden
Sub-registration district: Todmorden
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1305
Book: 6
Folio: 7
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
William Crabtree 35 - farmer
Mally Crabtree 35
Ely Crabtree 15
Sally Crabtree 15
John Crabtree 13
William Crabtree 10
Betty Crabtree 8
Malley Crabtree 5
Ann Crabtree 3
James Crabtree 1

Class: HO107; Piece: 1305; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Stansfield; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 10; Folio: 7; Page: 6; Line: 18; GSU roll: 464265.

thankyou glitter baby and thelma. just seen the replies and help you gave. Its definately mally crabtree then, and it looks like william the farmer is her dad. thanks for that. No, at work we only have access to some of ancestry.
Im justy trying to find anyhting to help me with my pickles family, so appreciate that, thankyou.
shirley

Hi again
i know that young pickles, another of abrahams sons , married a sarah barker in 1881. i think they may have married in todmorden, and think they both lived in stansfield. Is it possible to find the father of sarah barker at all?
thanks
shirley

Hi again
i know that young pickles, another of abrahams sons , married a sarah barker in 1881. i think they may have married in todmorden, and think they both lived in stansfield. Is it possible to find the father of sarah barker at all?
thanks
shirley

Name: Sarah Barker
Birth Year: abt 1861
Age: 20
Marriage or Bann Date: 19 Mar 1881
Parish: Halifax, St John the Baptist
Spouse's Name: Young Rickles - weaver
Spouse's Father's Name: Abraham Rickles - grocer


Pickles on image


No father named for Sarah Barker on image

Thanks for that. Wonder if that means it will be still no father if i get the certificate. That puts pay to that then. Still no wiser as to sarahs barker family. May still get certificate as there may be an address which might give me a clue, as also witnesses.
thanks for that
shirley

Update for Shirley on the 1881 marriage

Sarah gave her address as Back Brook St Todmorden - which I think means Back of Brook St.

Witnessed by Alice Scott and Thos Henry Greenwood


I did try looking last night for Barker at that address and did not find any.

Thanks. frustrated at minute as ancestry not working at work and no find my past either.
thanks for your help.
May just try to find a match on the 1871 census. but barker is such a common name around that area , as is sarah of course.
thanks again
shirley