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sylvia

Update on Matilda (Bellamy) born 1849-1929

l received Matilda's death cert. yesterday. She was the widow of a John Bellamy - a general labourer. The cert. verified she lived with my grandpa and my mum at 4 St.Ervans Rd.,We know from editoral rolls that she had lived with my grandpa and my mum from about 1916 till 1929. The lady was my mums 'Aunt Tilly'. Matilda actually died seventeenth April 1929 at 28 Marloes Road. Was she visiting - was she working? the occupier of the house Thos. Bates informed the death 18th April. It is still a mystery. If l could find Matilda's maiden name l could get her marriage cert. The going to America bit and coming back is also a mystery. l think it's true but the date of her coming back? l think it was earlier perhaps 1905 -1910? l know the ship was the Queen Mary.

Sheila. .

Just to say l have sent off for a death cert today 30th May for Matilda Bellamy. Expecting it about 26th June, hopefully it will tell us something.

l have taken on board that perhaps Bellamy wasn't her birth name. l even wonder if perhaps she escaped being registered in about 1849?

l will update at the end of June,

Sheila

Thankyou Sylvia, maybe your right perhaps Bellamy was a married name. l really hadn't thought of that.

Thanks Jill, l think l will get a death cert.

Sheila.

The death certificate is vital to establish her marital status when she died.

I'm not seeing a suitable Matilda Bellamy on US census.

So not Birmingham?

I think that you need to obtain her death cert. It should help to stop us all finding the wrong people in the wrong places :-D

Still, pretty soon we will all be experts on all the Matilda Bellamy's born in the UK :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Seriously, we will try help you to find the right one if we can.

Jill

how certain are you that Bellamy is/was her birth name?

She could possibly have married when overseas.




sylvia

Pam,
Thankyou but our Matilda Bellamy died in Kensington absolutely sure but think now she was also born in Kensington. Birth date could be a bit later.

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Jun 1849 (>99%)
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Bellamy Matilda Birmingham 16 247

Hi Sheila, You are more than welcome. It's always a pleasure for any of us on here to help the newer members. And a thank you is always appreciated.

Let us know if you need more help.Jill

These are the only entries on FreeBMD that I can find for Matilda but not Matilda Amelia.

urname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1849 (>99%)
Bellamy Matilda Birmingham 16 386
Births Sep 1849 (>99%)
Bellamy Matilda Birmingham 16 336

Henry Nathanial Stopps (grandfather) 1889 (Dec.5th) to 1957
Daisy Ellen Stopps (my mother) 1913 to 1977

l asked for help to find my mother's Aunt Tilly's last name and all the people in my thread helped me with that and with added information- very kind. Her name is Matilda Amelia Bellamy (Tilly) born in Birmingham 1849 died 1929 in Kensington.

A very kind lady from Genes has just e-mailed me to say that l need to write a general thankyou to everyone instead of thanking everyone separately which l have done but l will know better next time.

Kind regards,

Sheila.

Thankyou everyone, l appreciated all your help very much

Matilda Amelia Bellamy is shown as living with Henry Nathaniel Stopps and Daisy Mary Stopps on the 1918 and 1919 Electoral Registers. Address:- 4 St Ervans Road


In 1918 and 1919, Frank and Emma Matilda Martin and members of the King family are also living there

They could be servants OR, more likely, the house is divided into flats.




sylvia

Looking at those war records ...........



Henry is noted as being 5'3" tall, he had a birthmark on his lip, and he had tattoos on his left arm ...... "Sailor" and "I L DS"

His next of Kin was Daisy Mary Stopps, wife

He shows only the one child, Daisy Ellen




sylvia

Possibly Matilda's death?

Deaths Mar 1930 (>99%)
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Bellamy Matilda 85 Wandsworth 1d 699

PM received -

' have had about ten answers in about an hour? All different, but l know this Matilda Amelia Bellamy was my mums much loved aunt. l knew she was born about 1849 but l was looking under the name Stopps?. l also knew she died about 1929. l remember my mum saying she had just left school. l have all my mums prizes (books) all dated 1928.
so it all ties up. l didn't know how to get into the editorial roll for W.10'


Thanks given for everyone's help.

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Emma Martin
Name: Emma Martin
Birth Date: abt 1873
Age: 40
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 21 Oct 1913
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
[Plymouth]
Ship Name: Andania
Search Ship Database: View the 'Andania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 135481

Andy

living with Henry Nathaniel Stopps and Daisy M Stopps in Kensington on the Electoral register is

Matilda Amelia Bellamy (?'Tilly')



this could be her death in 1929

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Matilda Bellamy
Birth Date: abt 1849
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1929
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 117

On the 1922 electoral Role, At the same address as Henry are Frank and Emma Matilda Martin??

EDIT STill together in 1925 and 1929

Emma is not there in 1935, daughter Daisy is recorded.

Death for Emma

Deaths Mar 1934 (>99%)
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Martin Emma M 63 Kensington 1a 265


Andy

There is an extensive WW1 on Ancestry

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about Henry Nathaniel Stopps
Name: Henry Nathaniel Stopps
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Age at enlistment: 25
Residence: 10 Western Terrace, North Kensington
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 030482
Regiment Name: Army Service Corps
Number of images: 4



Andy

??
Name: Rachel Stopps
Birth Date: abt 1841
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1923
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 200