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Victoria

Victoria Report 19 May 2012 00:15

Benjamin was born in the east end of London but lived a lot of his life in Davenport, Devon, it also appears he travelled to the far east.

Has anyone got any info please he was my G/G/Grandfather

Thanking you in anticipation

Vicki Brett

patchem

patchem Report 19 May 2012 00:29

Do you mean this Benjamin?
Deaths Dec 1903
Germain Benjamin W 69 Devonport 5b 210

patchem

patchem Report 19 May 2012 00:33

Have you found him in all the censuses, e.g.?
1901 England Census
Benjamin Germain Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Germain
Gender: Male Where born: Stephney, London, England
Civil parish: Devonport Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: Devon Country: England
Registration district: Devonport Sub-registration district: Stoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 272 Piece: 2110 Folio: 131 Page Number: 49

Benjamin Germain 66 house decorator
Mary Germain 66 Devon
Frederick Germain 23 devon seaman
Richard H Germain 21 devon seaman

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2110; Folio: 131; Page: 49.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 May 2012 07:24

Richard's birth registration

Births Sep 1879 (>99%)

Germain Richard Henry Stoke D. 5b 339


Stoke D is an alternate name for Stoke Damerel, and is the registration district in Devon.



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 May 2012 07:26

Victoria


you should also search the Family Trees on this site ......... just look in the dark green band near the top of your screen.

Find Search Trees

Click on that, and enter Benjamin's name in the search box.


That will tell you is any member has got him in their tree ........... and you can send them a message by clicking on their name


Repeat for other members of his family.




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 May 2012 07:39

1881 Census ........with more children


Name: Benjamin N. Germain
[Benjamin W. Germain]
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Germain
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Stoke Damerel
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address: 13 Kent Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Occupation: Painter

Registration district: Stoke Damerel

Benjamin N. Germain 46
Mary Germain 46 b.ca 1835, Tamerton, Devon, Laundress
John Germain 16 b.ca 1865, St John, NBB, America, Apprentice Painter
Alfred Germain 15 b.ca 1866, St John, NBB, America, Boy, H.M. Navy
Lily Germain 6 b.ca 1875, Secunderabad, India
Frederic Germain 3 b.ca 1878, Ford, Devon
Richard Germain 1 b.ca 1880, Ford



I think Alfred and John were born in St John, New Brunswick ..... which is in Canada



Looking at the births of the older children, I would suggest that it is very likely Benjamin might have been in the English Army, and spent time in Canada, and then in India.




sylia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 May 2012 07:42

Benjamin and Mary's marriage registration


Marriages Sep 1858 (>99%)

Chubb Mary Stoke D. 5b 583
Germain Benjamin William Stoke D. 5b 583




So .............. Benjamin was born in London (Bethnal Green, according to the 1881), but moved to Devon where he met Mary


Was he in the army then???


His marriage certificate would tell you!





sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 May 2012 07:47

from www.familysearch.org/

Taken from the actual records


India, Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947," Lily Annie Louisa Germain, 1875

Name: Lily Annie Louisa Germain
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 25 Feb 1875
Baptism/Christening Place: Trimulgherry, Madras, India
Birth Date: 12 Feb 1875
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Benjamin William Germain
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00070-0
System Origin: India-EASy
Source Film Number: 521863
Reference Number:



also shown .....

India, Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947

George Germain
birth: 01 Jun 1871 Thayet Myo,? Bengal,? India
christening: 21 Jun 1871 Thayet Myo,? Bengal,? India
residence: 1871 Bengal,? India
parents: Benjamin William Germain,? Mary





sylvia

Gee

Gee Report 19 May 2012 07:52

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Benjamin William Germain
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1834
Baptism Date: 12 Oct 1834
Father's Name: William Germain <<Painter
Mother's Name: Louisa Germain
Parish or Poor Law Union: South Hackney St John of Jerusalem
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

Gee

Gee Report 19 May 2012 07:53

1841 England Census
about Benjamin Gennins
Name: Benjamin Gennins
[Benjamin Germain]
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Church
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 691
Book: 1
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
William Gennins 30
Louisa Gennins 25
Benjamin Gennins 7
Alfred Gennins 3
David Gennins 1


Gee

Gee Report 19 May 2012 07:55

I'll send a correction for his name!


1851 England Census
about Beryn W Germain
Name: Beryn W Germain
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Germain
Mother's Name: Louisa Germain
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England


Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 180
Piece: 1542
Folio: 114
Page Number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
William Germain 39
Louisa Germain 37
Beryn W Germain 16
Alfred Germain 12
David Germain 10
Edgar Germain 7
Susannah Germain 5
William S Germain 3
Louisa C Germain 1 Mo


Gee

Gee Report 19 May 2012 07:59

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941
Name: Benjamin William Germain
Probate Date: 2 Dec 1903
Death Date: 11 Nov 1903
Death Place: Devonport, Devon, England
Registry: Exeter

26 Alfred Road, Ford, Devonport....Painter. To widow Mary £67 15s

Gee

Gee Report 19 May 2012 08:03

His parents marriage


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: William Germain
Spouse Name: Louisa Lewis
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Jul 1833
Parish: South Hackney St John of Jerusalem
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Register

Gee

Gee Report 19 May 2012 08:06

His fathers birth

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: William Germain
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1815
Baptism Date: 26 Mar 1815
Father's Name: William Germain <<<Painter
Mother's Name: Jane Germain
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Gee

Gee Report 19 May 2012 08:17

Siblings

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Alfred German
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1838
Baptism Date: 30 Sep 1838
Father's Name: William German
Mother's Name: Louisa German
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: William Samuel Germain
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1848
Baptism Date: 27 Feb 1848
Father's Name: William Germain
Mother's Name: Louisa Germain
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Matthias
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: David Germaine
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1840
Baptism Date: 10 May 1840
Father's Name: William Germaine
Mother's Name: Louisa Germaine
Parish or Poor Law Union: South Hackney St John of Jerusalem
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Jane Louisa Germain
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1858
Baptism Date: 7 Feb 1858
Father's Name: William Germain
Mother's Name: Louisa Germain
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Matthew
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 May 2012 09:33

???

1861 Worldwide Army Index

First Name(s): Benjamin
Last Name: Germain
Number: 124
Rank: Driver
Unit: 8th Brigade R.A.
Regiment Stationed at:Curragh; Aldershot; Ballincollig; Devonport; Kinsale; Clonmel
National Archives reference:WO10 / 2583
© and All Rights Reserved 2011 - Roger E Nixon
________________________________________________

British Army Service Records 1760-1915

First name(s): Benjamin
Last name: GERMAIN
Calculated year of birth: 1835
Parish of birth: Bethnal Green
Town of birth: London
County of birth: Middlesex
Age at attestation: 20 years 6 months
Attestation date: 11 July 1855
Attestation corps:
Attestation soldier number:
Discharge rank: Driver
Discharge corps: Royal Artillery
Discharge soldier number: 2066 (also mentions 3830)

The National Archives reference: WO97 / 1792 / 179

He served 5 years in North British America and also in India. He had contracted hepatitis and liver infections (not due to vice or intemperance per the papers) and was discharged in 1876. He was a plumber/painter and was going to live at 59 Albert Road, Stoke, Devonport.

(Have pm'd Vicki)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 May 2012 09:46

Household transcription
1911 census
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Person: GERMAIN, Mary
Address: 4 Carlton Terrace St Budeaux Devonport

GERMAIN, Mary Head Widow F 76 1835 Private Means Devon Tamerton Folliott VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 13031
Reference: RG14PN13031 RG78PN752 RD278 SD2 ED4 SN238
Registration District: Devonport
Sub District: Stoke
Enumeration District: 4
Parish: Devonport
Address: 4 Carlton Terrace St Budeaux Devonport
County: Devonshire
(11 children born, 4 lving, 7 had died)



Deaths Dec 1924 (>99%)

Germain Mary 90 Devonport 5b 342



1851 England Census
about Mary Chubb
Name: Mary Chubb
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Tamerton, Devon, England

Civil parish: St Budeaux
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Plympton St Mary
Sub-registration district: Yealmpton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Piece: 1877
Folio: 612
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age

Ann Chubb 1789 Bideford, Devon, England Head St Budeaux, Devon (62)
Mary A Love 1821 Plymouth, Devon, England Daughter St Budeaux, Devon (30)
James Love 1825 London, Middlesex, England Son-in-law St Budeaux, Devon (26)
James Love 1850 Plymouth, Devon, England Grandson St Budeaux, Devon (1)
Edward Love 1850 St Budeaux, Devon, England Grandson St Budeaux, Devon (4 mnths)
Mary Chubb 1835 Tamerton, Devon, England Granddaughter St Budeaux, Devon (16)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 May 2012 11:29

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Lily Annie L Germain
Name: Lily Annie L Germain
Spouse Name: Henry James Merrett
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1900
Registration district: Devonport
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 656


Household transcription
1911 census
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Person: MERRETT, Lily Annie Lousia
Address: 8 Kent Road Devonport

MERRETT, Lily Annie Lousia Wife Married F 36 1875 India VIEW
MERRETT, Leslie Frederick Son M 8 1903 Ford Devonport VIEW
MERRETT, Margery Mary Daughter F 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Ford Devonport VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 13039
Reference: RG14PN13039 RG78PN752 RD278 SD2 ED12 SN340
Registration District: Devonport
Sub District: Stoke
Enumeration District: 12
Parish: Devonport
Address: 8 Kent Road Devonport
County: Devonshire


Household transcription
1911 census
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Person: MERRETT, Henry J
Institution: Defiance
Military details: Petty Officer Seaman 416/x/0

MERRETT, Henry J Married 35 1876 Devon Devonport VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 13615
Reference: RG14PN13615 RD291 SD3 ED13 SN9999
Registration District: St Germans
Sub District: Saltash
Enumeration District: 13
Parish:
Address:
County: Cornwall


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Lily A L Merrett
Name: Lily A L Merrett
Birth Date: abt 1875
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1952
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5e
Page: 179











PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 May 2012 11:33

Household transcription
1911 census
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Person: GERMAIN, Frederick W
Institution: Kent, SHIP: KENT, CHINA, SEA LAT 31.45 S LONG 71.55 W
Military details: Leading Seaman Rn

GERMAIN, Frederick W Single ? 33 1878 Devon Stoke Damerel VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 34972
Reference: RG14PN34972 RD640 SD3 ED7 SN9999
Registration District:
Sub District:
Enumeration District: 7
Parish:
Address:
County: Royal Navy at Sea and in ports abroad

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 May 2012 11:38

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Richard Henry Germain
Name: Richard Henry Germain
Souse Name: Florence Emma Rapson
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1901
Registration district: Devonport
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 706


Household transcription
1911 census
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Person: GERMAIN, Richard
Address: 11 Ordnance St Devonport

GERMAIN, Richard Head Married M 31 1880 Sailor Saiman Ford Devonport VIEW
GERMAIN, Florence Wife Married9 years F 30 1881 Devonport VIEW
GERMAIN, Reginald Son Single M 9 1902 School Devonport VIEW
GERMAIN, Alfred Son Single M 8 1903 School Devonport VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 13015
Reference: RG14PN13015 RG78PN751 RD278 SD1 ED1 SN493
Registration District: Devonport
Sub District: St Aubyn
Enumeration District: 1
Parish: Devonport
Address: 11 Ordnance St Devonport
County: Devonshire


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Richard H Germain
Name: Richard H Germain
Birth Date: abt 1879
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1955
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 475


I am just adding here (In case you don't realise) that you have two pages of information so far.........so you need to click on to the next page.

:-)