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19 May 2012 00:15 |
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Benjamin was born in the east end of London but lived a lot of his life in Davenport, Devon, it also appears he travelled to the far east.
Has anyone got any info please he was my G/G/Grandfather
Thanking you in anticipation
Vicki Brett
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19 May 2012 00:29 |
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Do you mean this Benjamin? Deaths Dec 1903 Germain Benjamin W 69 Devonport 5b 210
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19 May 2012 00:33 |
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Have you found him in all the censuses, e.g.? 1901 England Census Benjamin Germain Age: 66 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Germain Gender: Male Where born: Stephney, London, England Civil parish: Devonport Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: Devonport Sub-registration district: Stoke ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 272 Piece: 2110 Folio: 131 Page Number: 49
Benjamin Germain 66 house decorator Mary Germain 66 Devon Frederick Germain 23 devon seaman Richard H Germain 21 devon seaman
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2110; Folio: 131; Page: 49.
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19 May 2012 07:24 |
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Richard's birth registration
Births Sep 1879 (>99%) Germain Richard Henry Stoke D. 5b 339
Stoke D is an alternate name for Stoke Damerel, and is the registration district in Devon.
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19 May 2012 07:26 |
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Victoria
you should also search the Family Trees on this site ......... just look in the dark green band near the top of your screen.
Find Search Trees
Click on that, and enter Benjamin's name in the search box.
That will tell you is any member has got him in their tree ........... and you can send them a message by clicking on their name
Repeat for other members of his family.
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19 May 2012 07:39 |
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1881 Census ........with more children
Name: Benjamin N. Germain [Benjamin W. Germain] Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Germain Gender: Male Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Stoke Damerel County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address: 13 Kent Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Occupation: Painter Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Benjamin N. Germain 46 Mary Germain 46 b.ca 1835, Tamerton, Devon, Laundress John Germain 16 b.ca 1865, St John, NBB, America, Apprentice Painter Alfred Germain 15 b.ca 1866, St John, NBB, America, Boy, H.M. Navy Lily Germain 6 b.ca 1875, Secunderabad, India Frederic Germain 3 b.ca 1878, Ford, Devon Richard Germain 1 b.ca 1880, Ford
I think Alfred and John were born in St John, New Brunswick ..... which is in Canada
Looking at the births of the older children, I would suggest that it is very likely Benjamin might have been in the English Army, and spent time in Canada, and then in India.
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19 May 2012 07:42 |
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Benjamin and Mary's marriage registration
Marriages Sep 1858 (>99%) Chubb Mary Stoke D. 5b 583 Germain Benjamin William Stoke D. 5b 583
So .............. Benjamin was born in London (Bethnal Green, according to the 1881), but moved to Devon where he met Mary
Was he in the army then???
His marriage certificate would tell you!
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19 May 2012 07:47 |
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from www.familysearch.org/
Taken from the actual records
India, Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947," Lily Annie Louisa Germain, 1875 Name: Lily Annie Louisa Germain Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 25 Feb 1875 Baptism/Christening Place: Trimulgherry, Madras, India Birth Date: 12 Feb 1875 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Benjamin William Germain Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Mary Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00070-0 System Origin: India-EASy Source Film Number: 521863 Reference Number:
also shown .....
India, Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947
George Germain birth: 01 Jun 1871 Thayet Myo,? Bengal,? India christening: 21 Jun 1871 Thayet Myo,? Bengal,? India residence: 1871 Bengal,? India parents: Benjamin William Germain,? Mary
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19 May 2012 07:52 |
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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Benjamin William Germain Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1834 Baptism Date: 12 Oct 1834 Father's Name: William Germain <<Painter Mother's Name: Louisa Germain Parish or Poor Law Union: South Hackney St John of Jerusalem Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers
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19 May 2012 07:53 |
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1841 England Census about Benjamin Gennins Name: Benjamin Gennins [Benjamin Germain] Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil parish: Bethnal Green Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Church Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 691 Book: 1 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age William Gennins 30 Louisa Gennins 25 Benjamin Gennins 7 Alfred Gennins 3 David Gennins 1
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19 May 2012 07:55 |
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I'll send a correction for his name!
1851 England Census about Beryn W Germain Name: Beryn W Germain Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Germain Mother's Name: Louisa Germain Gender: M (Male) Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Bethnal Green County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Town ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 180 Piece: 1542 Folio: 114 Page Number: 41 Household Members: Name Age William Germain 39 Louisa Germain 37 Beryn W Germain 16 Alfred Germain 12 David Germain 10 Edgar Germain 7 Susannah Germain 5 William S Germain 3 Louisa C Germain 1 Mo
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19 May 2012 07:59 |
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England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941 Name: Benjamin William Germain Probate Date: 2 Dec 1903 Death Date: 11 Nov 1903 Death Place: Devonport, Devon, England Registry: Exeter 26 Alfred Road, Ford, Devonport....Painter. To widow Mary £67 15s
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19 May 2012 08:03 |
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His parents marriage
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: William Germain Spouse Name: Louisa Lewis Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 28 Jul 1833 Parish: South Hackney St John of Jerusalem Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Register
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19 May 2012 08:06 |
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His fathers birth
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: William Germain Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1815 Baptism Date: 26 Mar 1815 Father's Name: William Germain <<<Painter Mother's Name: Jane Germain Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
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19 May 2012 08:17 |
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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Alfred German Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1838 Baptism Date: 30 Sep 1838 Father's Name: William German Mother's Name: Louisa German Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: William Samuel Germain Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1848 Baptism Date: 27 Feb 1848 Father's Name: William Germain Mother's Name: Louisa Germain Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Matthias Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: David Germaine Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1840 Baptism Date: 10 May 1840 Father's Name: William Germaine Mother's Name: Louisa Germaine Parish or Poor Law Union: South Hackney St John of Jerusalem Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Jane Louisa Germain Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1858 Baptism Date: 7 Feb 1858 Father's Name: William Germain Mother's Name: Louisa Germain Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Matthew Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
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19 May 2012 09:33 |
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1861 Worldwide Army Index
First Name(s): Benjamin Last Name: Germain Number: 124 Rank: Driver Unit: 8th Brigade R.A. Regiment Stationed at:Curragh; Aldershot; Ballincollig; Devonport; Kinsale; Clonmel National Archives reference:WO10 / 2583 © and All Rights Reserved 2011 - Roger E Nixon ________________________________________________
British Army Service Records 1760-1915 First name(s): Benjamin Last name: GERMAIN Calculated year of birth: 1835 Parish of birth: Bethnal Green Town of birth: London County of birth: Middlesex Age at attestation: 20 years 6 months Attestation date: 11 July 1855 Attestation corps: Attestation soldier number: Discharge rank: Driver Discharge corps: Royal Artillery Discharge soldier number: 2066 (also mentions 3830)
The National Archives reference: WO97 / 1792 / 179
He served 5 years in North British America and also in India. He had contracted hepatitis and liver infections (not due to vice or intemperance per the papers) and was discharged in 1876. He was a plumber/painter and was going to live at 59 Albert Road, Stoke, Devonport.
(Have pm'd Vicki)
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19 May 2012 09:46 |
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Household transcription 1911 census Printer friendly version Report transcription change Search criteria used Person: GERMAIN, Mary Address: 4 Carlton Terrace St Budeaux Devonport GERMAIN, Mary Head Widow F 76 1835 Private Means Devon Tamerton Folliott VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 13031 Reference: RG14PN13031 RG78PN752 RD278 SD2 ED4 SN238 Registration District: Devonport Sub District: Stoke Enumeration District: 4 Parish: Devonport Address: 4 Carlton Terrace St Budeaux Devonport County: Devonshire (11 children born, 4 lving, 7 had died)
Deaths Dec 1924 (>99%) Germain Mary 90 Devonport 5b 342
1851 England Census about Mary Chubb Name: Mary Chubb Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: F (Female) Where born: Tamerton, Devon, England Civil parish: St Budeaux County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Plympton St Mary Sub-registration district: Yealmpton ED, institution, or vessel: 8a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 58 Piece: 1877 Folio: 612 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age
Ann Chubb 1789 Bideford, Devon, England Head St Budeaux, Devon (62) Mary A Love 1821 Plymouth, Devon, England Daughter St Budeaux, Devon (30) James Love 1825 London, Middlesex, England Son-in-law St Budeaux, Devon (26) James Love 1850 Plymouth, Devon, England Grandson St Budeaux, Devon (1) Edward Love 1850 St Budeaux, Devon, England Grandson St Budeaux, Devon (4 mnths) Mary Chubb 1835 Tamerton, Devon, England Granddaughter St Budeaux, Devon (16)
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19 May 2012 11:29 |
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Lily Annie L Germain Name: Lily Annie L Germain Spouse Name: Henry James Merrett Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1900 Registration district: Devonport Inferred County: Devonshire Volume Number: 5b Page Number: 656
Household transcription 1911 census Printer friendly version Report transcription change Search criteria used Person: MERRETT, Lily Annie Lousia Address: 8 Kent Road Devonport MERRETT, Lily Annie Lousia Wife Married F 36 1875 India VIEW MERRETT, Leslie Frederick Son M 8 1903 Ford Devonport VIEW MERRETT, Margery Mary Daughter F 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Ford Devonport VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 13039 Reference: RG14PN13039 RG78PN752 RD278 SD2 ED12 SN340 Registration District: Devonport Sub District: Stoke Enumeration District: 12 Parish: Devonport Address: 8 Kent Road Devonport County: Devonshire
Household transcription 1911 census Printer friendly version Report transcription change Search criteria used Person: MERRETT, Henry J Institution: Defiance Military details: Petty Officer Seaman 416/x/0
MERRETT, Henry J Married 35 1876 Devon Devonport VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 13615 Reference: RG14PN13615 RD291 SD3 ED13 SN9999 Registration District: St Germans Sub District: Saltash Enumeration District: 13 Parish: Address: County: Cornwall
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Lily A L Merrett Name: Lily A L Merrett Birth Date: abt 1875 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1952 Age at Death: 77 Registration district: Ealing Inferred County: Middlesex Volume: 5e Page: 179
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19 May 2012 11:33 |
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Household transcription 1911 census Printer friendly version Report transcription change Search criteria used Person: GERMAIN, Frederick W Institution: Kent, SHIP: KENT, CHINA, SEA LAT 31.45 S LONG 71.55 W Military details: Leading Seaman Rn
GERMAIN, Frederick W Single ? 33 1878 Devon Stoke Damerel VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 34972 Reference: RG14PN34972 RD640 SD3 ED7 SN9999 Registration District: Sub District: Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Address: County: Royal Navy at Sea and in ports abroad
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19 May 2012 11:38 |
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Richard Henry Germain Name: Richard Henry Germain Souse Name: Florence Emma Rapson Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1901 Registration district: Devonport Inferred County: Devonshire Volume Number: 5b Page Number: 706
Household transcription 1911 census Printer friendly version Report transcription change Search criteria used Person: GERMAIN, Richard Address: 11 Ordnance St Devonport GERMAIN, Richard Head Married M 31 1880 Sailor Saiman Ford Devonport VIEW GERMAIN, Florence Wife Married9 years F 30 1881 Devonport VIEW GERMAIN, Reginald Son Single M 9 1902 School Devonport VIEW GERMAIN, Alfred Son Single M 8 1903 School Devonport VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 13015 Reference: RG14PN13015 RG78PN751 RD278 SD1 ED1 SN493 Registration District: Devonport Sub District: St Aubyn Enumeration District: 1 Parish: Devonport Address: 11 Ordnance St Devonport County: Devonshire
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Richard H Germain Name: Richard H Germain Birth Date: abt 1879 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1955 Age at Death: 76 Registration district: Plymouth Inferred County: Devon Volume: 7a Page: 475
I am just adding here (In case you don't realise) that you have two pages of information so far.........so you need to click on to the next page. :-)
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