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please a look up Census & G R 1861 Army Index

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Ann

Ann Report 23 May 2012 22:53

Thank you very much Stuart you have been a big help ,
So the The institution called "the John Weakner" thank you for that & for the info on Henry.
Ann

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 May 2012 18:51

Think our 1891's and1901's are the same person as I said, hadn't found more than you had. They are both so close with year of birth, place of birth and occupation but of course may well not be him.

1891 - can't see a Robert Collington/Collingstone on census either side of this one and was wondering how his surname sounded to a stranger writing it down. Would he have worked every night? As per your find

1901 - he is in an institution called the John Weakner, Darlington, County Durham if the right person. Details as per your index find

1911 - ? still in Darlington as you say, looks possible

Henry b 1869 would appear to have followed his father into the Army and is married with family in Portsmouth in 1911 - an Army Pensioner but working in the Sergeants Mess as a Cook. one of his sons appears to be doing the sensible thing and joining the Navy!

Ann

Ann Report 22 May 2012 15:39

Hi Stuart, Thanks for the info, I was in a rush as I had to go out, then I lost broadband.

You asked ‘did he marry more than once ‘I think he married 4? Times & cohabited for over three years with another in Pontefract, I believe he worked nights, so I an not sure about the 1891 - Robert Collington (CollingStonE ) you found, would miners be on the census where they worked? He was still mining on May 02, 1892, (from a newspaper reports)

I dint think the 1901 census is him as I found this in the in the Index
1901 Robert Collinson 67 Yorkshire Wakefield living in Durham, Ret Labourer General

I have the 1911 census for him? & he married again 1902 I do not have a copy of that [ I have the other 3 marriage], I have only found one Robert Collinson born Wakefield 1836 plus minus five years in the census index who was a miner & was in the army so I think it must be him, I only have the daughter in the 1881 census.
Thanks.
Ann

Ann

Ann Report 21 May 2012 11:48

Thank you very much Stuart that is good of you, I think it might be him as there are no other contenders.
Ann

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 May 2012 10:17

Finding nothing closer than you have

What were the names, ages, places of birth of Roberts wife/wives (see below) and children?
I presume this is him with 2 children in 1871 in Barracks at Aldershot

1871 - Robert b 1838 Wakefield, Private - does it say Widr for Widower by his name? Is this a mistake or does he marry more than once? Also there are 2 children with him.
Arthur Collinson - son age 8 b 1863 Mauritius and
Ann Collinson - daughter age 8 b 1865 Mauritius

In 1881 I see him in Dartmoor Prison Married b 1836 Wakefield a Collier
Annie ? servant age 16 British Subject b India in Bradford RD and there is a
Henry age 12 b 1869 Mauritius at Dover Union Workhouse - another child?

1891 - Robert Collington (CollingStonE on original) appears as a 55 year old b 1836 Wakefield in Hemsworth RD Yorks WR a Widower - he would seem a good bet but not a certainty.

1901 - age 67 b 1834 in an Institution - John Weakner, Darlington. A General Labourer, widower, b Wakefield. Another possible, perhaps he moved area as a Miner, before labouring, or perhaps nearer to family.

Perhaps by following children, it may give clues?

Ann

Ann Report 21 May 2012 08:42

please :-)

Ann

Ann Report 20 May 2012 22:31

Hi,
I have found out that Robert was out of prison on a ticket of leave by 1889, the nearest I can find in the 1891 census is
1891 Collington ? Robert born 1836 Wakefield, Hemsworth, & in the
1901 census1901Collinson Robert born 1834 Yorkshire Wakefield, Durham
Please is it possible for someone to look him up.
Thank you.
Ann

Ann

Ann Report 17 May 2012 09:58

Thank you for that info on Army records,

Please can any one find Robert in the 1891 & 1901 census,
in 1881 he was in prison for life, did he get out?
Ann

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 16 May 2012 22:45

The National Archives won't search WO12 which is the reference for Muster Rolls. You'd have to go there yourself to search or get someone to go for you.

Ann

Ann Report 16 May 2012 19:42

Thank you very much Shirley & Glitter Baby, I have been busy today but will look later.
I have him in the census up to1881 where he was in prison for attempting to murder his wife “he was sentenced to penal servitude for
:-0the term of your natural life” I cant see him in the 1891 & 1901?
Thanks,
Ann

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 May 2012 12:05

Shirley is correct with the N A ref number

It was a typo sorry

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 May 2012 09:37

may be of interest on the National Archives site

Commissary General of Musters Office and successor... WO 12/4142
24th Foot 2nd Battalion . 24th Foot 2nd Battalion 24th Foot Commissary General of Musters Office and successors: General Muster Books and Pay Lists INFANTRY
Date: 1861 - 1862
Source: The Catalogue of The National Archives

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=3160531&CATLN=6&accessmethod=5

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 May 2012 09:33

His papers may not be online but you could try contacting the National Archives quoting his name and the WO12 ref

adding again because FMP has a slightly diff ref nos

1861 Worldwide Army Index
First Name(s)Robert
Last NameCollinson
Number174
RankPrivate
Unit2nd Btn 24th Foot (2nd Warwickshire)
Regiment Stationed at:Mauritius
National Archives reference:WO12 / 4142 >>>>>>>

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 May 2012 09:19

Have you tried the National Archives. His Army papers may be held there if he came out on a pension. I got my grt x 3 grandfather's record from there he was in the Army from 1825-1859 and came out as a Chelsea pensioner(out)

Ann

Ann Report 16 May 2012 01:52

Thank you very much Glitter Baby that is interesting, I know he was in Mauritius as his two children were born there, now know he was out there in 1861 every bit of info helps.
Thanks,
Ann

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 May 2012 01:28

Name: Robert Collinson
Rank: Private
Service: 2nd Btn 24th Foot ( 2nd Warwickshire)
Regiment stationed at Mauritius
National Archive Ref: Wo12/2142


Thats all it says


Ann

Ann Report 16 May 2012 01:01

Thanks, ok will do,
Ann

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 May 2012 00:56

Perhaps alter your heading to include FMP as some members might not know which site the records are on

Ann

Ann Report 16 May 2012 00:53

Thank you anyway GlitterBaby
Ann

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 May 2012 00:41

Not got the right sub on FMP to view those records