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Plant and Brandreth in 1841

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Teresa

Teresa Report 11 May 2012 17:46

Hi. Is anyone available to do a couple of look-ups in 1841 census please?
I have a William Plant born c 1820 at Moreton Staffs.
Also a Joseph Brandreth born c 1821 at Sutton in Ashfield.
I know with only limited info it is a long shot, but would appreciate it if some-one will have a go.
Regards Teresa.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 May 2012 17:57

Teresa the 1841 doesn't show birthplaces, just if in County or not.

Do you have any further info from later census, like occupation, to narrow it down?

Any guesses as to who they might be with (or is that what we're trying to find?)

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 11 May 2012 17:57

?? Born out of county. Where is he 1851?

1841 England Census

Name: Joseph Brandreth
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Manchester
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: St George

Elizabeth Brandreth 45
Joseph Brandreth 20


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 May 2012 17:59

Don't know if this is the right Joseph - he wasn't born in County:

BRANDRETH, Elizabeth F 45 1796
BRANDRETH, Joseph M 20 1821 < Farmer

Piece: 574 Book/Folio: 1/13 Page: 20
Registration District: 20
Civil Parish: Manchester
Municipal Borough: Manchester
Address: Swan Street, Manchester County: Lancashire

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 11 May 2012 17:59

Wasn't sure where this is!

1861 England Census

Name: Joseph Brandreth
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Brandreth
Gender: Male
Where born: Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Sutton in Ashfield
County/Island: Nottinghamshire

Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Sutton in Ashfield

Joseph Brandreth 40
Hannah Brandreth 37
Elizabeth Brandreth 13
Samuel Brandreth 11
Mary Brandreth 4
Hannah Brandreth 4

Teresa

Teresa Report 11 May 2012 18:00

Hi. Am trying to find out his parents, sibling etc. He married in 1847 in Selston Notts and his daughter Hannah was born in 1857 in Bagthorpe, but i am trying to get a bit further back. Thanks

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 May 2012 18:01

1841
foreton is near to moreton ?????
DERINGTON, Thomas M 35 1806 Staffordshire VIEW
DERINGTON, Elizabeth F 60 1781 Staffordshire VIEW
DERINGTON, Isabella F 30 1811 Staffordshire VIEW
SMITH, James M 30 1811 Staffordshire VIEW
PLANT, William M 20 1821 Staffordshire VIEW
BULLOCK, William M 15 1826 Staffordshire VIEW
WEBB, Jane F 20 1821 VIEW
PLANT, Jane F 25 1816 Staffordshire VIEW

Piece: 974

Book/Folio: 4/13

Page: 20

Registration District: 20

Civil Parish: Forton

Municipal Borough:

Address: Warton, Forton

County: Staffordshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 11 May 2012 18:01

Is this william?

1861 England Censusabout William Plant
Name: William Plant
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Moreton Gursall, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Longton
Ecclesiastical parish: Edensor
Town: Longton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Innkeeper

Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Longton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page

Household schedule number: 138
Piece: 1944
Folio: 59
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
William Plant 39 (Widower)


Teresa

Teresa Report 11 May 2012 18:02

Hi Jan, that's him in 1861 with Hannah wife and daughter also Hannah.

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 May 2012 18:04

1851 /??????
PLANT, William Head Unmarried M 32 1819 Wheelwright
Forton
Staffordshire VIEW
PLANT, Jane Step Mother Widow F 60 1791
Lilleshall
Salop VIEW
GREENFIELD, William Unmarried M 30 1821
Edgmond
Salop VIEW

Piece: 1998

Folio: 490

Page: 16

Registration District: 16

Civil Parish: Weston Jones

Municipal Borough:

Address: Weston Jones, Weston Jones

County: Shropshire
redefine current search census search results

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 11 May 2012 18:04

I would get the marriage cert to ascertain his father's name.
Jan

Teresa

Teresa Report 11 May 2012 18:06

Hi Catherine.
Could be him as his marriage to Catherine Draycott was in 1863, I did wonder why he was so old!!to be getting married.

Catherine

Catherine Report 11 May 2012 18:15

Joseph in 1851?

1851 England Censusabout Joseph Brandriff
Name: Joseph Brandriff
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Brandriff
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Kirkby, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Bagthorpe
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Frame Work Knitter

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Greasley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2c
Neighbors: View others on page

Household schedule number: 86
Piece: 2125
Folio: 126
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Brandriff 29
Hannah Brandriff 27
Elizabeth Brandriff 3
Samuel Brandriff 1


Teresa

Teresa Report 11 May 2012 18:15

Thank-you to all who have helped with my 2 requests x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 May 2012 18:16

England, Marriages, 1538–1973

groom's name: William Plant
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Catherine Draycott
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 1863
marriage place: Sutton On The Hill, Derby, England
groom's father's name: Daniel Plant
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: John Draycott
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M05951-4
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1042077
reference number: 2:3FKQXLB

Source Citation
"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N6NL-TS3 : accessed 11 May 2012), William Plant, 1863

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 May 2012 18:20

The William Plant who married Catherine Draycott was the son of Daniel:

PLANT, William Age: FULL Marriage
Wife: Catherine DRAYCOTT Age: FULL
Marriage Date: 19 Jan 1863 Recorded in: Sutton-on-the-Hill, Derbyshire, England
Husband's Father: Daniel PLANT
Wife's Father: John DRAYCOTT
Source: FHL Film 1042077 Dates: 1835 - 1863

Would this be his birth?

PLANT, William Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 7 May 1820 Recorded in: Gnosall, Staffordshire, England
Father: Daniel PLANT
Mother: Anne
Source: FHL Film 1470948 Dates: 1677 - 1864

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 May 2012 18:20

Joseph's unusual middle name may help:

England, Marriages, 1538–1973

groom's name: Joseph Bowring Brandreth
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Hannah Burrows
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 23 May 1847
marriage place: Selston,Nottingham,England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M01574-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 95049
reference number:

Source Citation
"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N2Y6-XXZ : accessed 11 May 2012), Joseph Bowring Brandreth, 1847.

Catherine

Catherine Report 11 May 2012 18:21

If William's father is Daniel, then maybe this is his baptism ????

Name: William Plant
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 07 May 1820
Baptism/Christening Place: Gnosall, Stafford, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Daniel Plant
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Anne
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02264-4

System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1470948
Reference Number: item 20 p 71

.............................................................

Possible siblings:-

Thomas Plant
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 1806 GNOSALL, STAFFORD, ENGLAND
residence: Gnosall, Staffordshire, England
parents: Daniel Plant, Ann


John Plant
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 1808 GNOSALL, STAFFORD, ENGLAND
residence: Gnosall, Staffordshire, England
parents: Daniel Plant, Ann


Francis Plant
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 1811 GNOSALL, STAFFORD, ENGLAND
residence: Gnosall, Staffordshire, England
parents: Daniel Plant, Ann


Mary Plant
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 1804 GNOSALL, STAFFORD, ENGLAND
residence: Gnosall, Staffordshire, England
parents: Daniel Plant, Ann


Elizabeth Plant
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 1814 GNOSALL, STAFFORD, ENGLAND
residence: Gnosall, Staffordshire, England
parents: Daniel Plant, Ann

Teresa

Teresa Report 11 May 2012 18:23

Thanks MarieCeleste,
this marriage info gives me William and catherine's Fathers, I may e able to get a bit further now. Teresa :-)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 May 2012 18:24

There are 6 children of Daniel & Ann born in Gnosall between 1804-1820. Do you want them?