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I am having problems finding information re. Robert Alexander Murray. Born 1800? Kirkubrishire Scotland . Married 1914 Isabella Mitchell Hayton Cumbria England 4 Children 2 deceased early age. Could someone please help.

check your dates born 1800?married 1914?

Where have you looked?

And what do you wish to know?

When and where were the children born?

What were their names?

I would have guessed at this one-not born in Scotland,though:
Deaths Jun 1961
MURRAY Robert A 77 Wigton 1a 168

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Robert Alexander Murray
Name: Robert Alexander Murray
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1883
Registration district: Wigton
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 502

1911 England Census about Robert A Murray
Name: Robert A Murray
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hayton Maryport, Cum
Civil parish: Hayton and Mealo
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street Address: Hayton Bullgill Carlisle
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Farmer Son Working On Farm
Registration district: Wigton
Registration District Number: 575
Sub-registration district: Abbey Holme
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 31377
James Murray 75
Jane Murray 61
Donald Murray 36
Robert A Murray 27
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 31377.

Maureen

So where does Kirkcudbrightshire come into the equation?

Was it perhaps where Isabella came from? There is NO record of any sort for her name on freebmd

The father was born there:
1911 census transcription details for: Hayton Bullgill S O
RG14PN31377 RG78PN1802 RD575 SD2 ED6 SN47
Reg. District: Wigton
Sub District: Abbey Holme
Parish: Hayton and Mealo
Enum. District: 6
Address: Hayton Bullgill S O
County: Cumberland
MURRAY, James Head Married M 75 1836 Farmer St Johns Daloy Kirkcudbright
MURRAY, Jane Wife Married
39 years F 61 1850 Hayton Maryport Aim
MURRAY, Donald Son Single M 36 1875 Farmers Son Working On Farm Hayton Maryport Aim
MURRAY, Robert A Son Single M 27 1884 Farmers Son Working On Farm Hayton Maryport Aim


Maureen

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1911 census transcription details for: Hayton Castle Bullgill S O
RG14PN31377 RG78PN1802 RD575 SD2 ED6 SN35
Reg. District: Wigton
Sub District: Abbey Holme
Parish: Hayton and Mealo
Enum. District: 6
Address: Hayton Castle Bullgill S O

MITCHELL, David Head Single M 40 1871 Farmer Shotts Lanarkshire
MITCHELL, Isabella Sister Single F 29 1882 Shotts Lanarkshire
PITBLADE, Isaac Servant Single M 21 1890 Horseman On Farm Whitehaven Cumberland
ARMSTRONG, Robert Servant Single M 21 1890 Horseman On Farm West Newton Cumberland
CARTWRIGHT, Joseph Servant Single M 21 1890 Cattleman Workington Cumberland
HARRIS, Thomas Servant Single M 24 1887 Horseman On Farm Hayton Cumberland
MUSGRAVE, John Servant Single M 16 1895 Farm Labourer Morbay Cumberland
JOHNSTONE, Fanny Servant Single F 25 1886 Servant Domestic

Maureen

For pity's sake.....................

Marriages Mar 1914 (>99%)
BELL Mabel Fearon Wigton 10b 903
FEARON Peter Bell Wigton 10b 903
MITCHELL Isabella Murray Wigton 10b 903
MURRAY Robert A Mitchell Wigton 10b 903

Why don't people use punctuation?????

Oh shoot,Reggie...you did that too! Thought I was the only one looking for Isabella M Hayton.

Maureen

Name: Robert A Murray
Birth Date: abt 1884
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1961
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Wigton
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume: 1a
Page: 168

No Maureen, you weren't alone!

Is this where Kirkcudbrightshire comes from:

1891 England Census
about James Caraway
Name: James Caraway
[James Murray]
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Caraway
Gender: Male
Where born: Kircubright, Scotland

Civil parish: Hayton and Mealo
Ecclesiastical parish: St James Hayton
Town: Hayton
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wigton
Sub-registration district: Abbey Holme
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4298
Folio: 22
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
James Caraway 50
Jane Caraway 40
Grace Caraway 18
Donald Caraway 16
Robert A Caraway 7

Possible marriage for James and Jane:

Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
KENT Margaret Wigton 10b 815
>>>>LAIDLOW Jane Wigton 10b 815
McKinsey Jonathan Wigton 10b 815
>>>>Murray James Wigton 10b 815

Possible birth for Robert:

Births Dec 1883 (>99%)
MURRAY Robert Alexander Wigton 10b 502

1881

Name: Donald Murray
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Murray
Mother's Name: Jane Murray
Gender: Male
Where born: Hayton, Cumberland, England
Civil parish: Hayton and Mealo
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street Address: Hayton Moor

Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Wigton
Sub-registration district: Abbey Holme
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5167
Folio: 53
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
James Murray 42
Jane Murray 32
Grace Murray 8
Donald Murray 6
Lizzie Finlay 20 Boarder

PM received from OP. She would like to trace back from James Murray and Jane Laidl*w.

Suggested posting on this thread,etc.

Maureen
(just so our Cynthia doesn't have to roust another one-or maybe she has :-))

Possible baptism for James (POB in 1911 probably should be St John's Town of Dalry):

JAMES MURRAY Pedigree
Event(s):
Birth: 1836 Dalry, Kirkcudbright, Scotland

:
Father: ROBERT MURRAY Family
Mother: MARGRET

celia

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To work back, you need to purchase the 1872 marriage cert - it will give you the names of each of their fathers - assuming they knew them!

Possible in 1851:

1851 Scotland Census
about James Murray
Name: James Murray
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert Murray
Mother's Name: Margret Murray
Gender: Male
Where born: Dalry, kirkcud
Parish Number: 881
Civil parish: Tongland
Town: Country Farms & Cottages
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: Beach
Occupation: School
ED: 2
Page: 15 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 43
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1851_214
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Murray 38 b Kells
Margret Murray 45 B Dalry
James Murray 13
Mary Murray 13 B Tongland
Alexr Murray 10 B Tongland

Edited to give POBs

1841


Name: James Murray
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
Civil parish: Tongland
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: Kirkconnel
Parish Number: 881
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Murray 30
Margaret Murray 30
James Murray 5
Mary Murray 3
Alexander Murray 8 Mo

Same family in 1841 but as Reggie says, you should really get the marriage cert:

1841 Scotland Census
about James Murray
Name: James Murray
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Tongland
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: Kirkconnel
Parish Number: 881
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Murray 30
Margaret Murray 30
James Murray 5
Mary Murray 3
Alexander Murray 8 Mo