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can anyone find, for me, please

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poppygirl

poppygirl Report 7 May 2012 15:26

Knowing how clever you are, here, on Genes, I am trying to find a census for a Thomas Tulley, and his wife, on any census, obviously AFTER they married. I have the marriage record, and it states that he married a Silphine Irwin, which is my line of research. But as I cannot find her anywhere thought I would try to find Thomas.
They were married in St Georges, London in 1843. Thomas was an engineer, at this time.

I do have, what I think is Silphine's family, on the 1841 census, but this is an extreemly poor quality view, her father is John Irwin
I cannot find a birth record fro Silphine, though. her family, would have been living in either the St Georges in the East, area, or Hammersmith areas, then.
Thank you to you all for your time, and help

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 May 2012 15:45

Did they perhaps emigrate?

How did you work back to this couple?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 May 2012 15:46

Have you tried looking for his surname as per the records?


Name: Silphine Irwin
Spouse Name: Thomas Tully
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 6 Jun 1843
Parish: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Irwin
Spouse Father Name: Richard Tully
Register Type: Parish Register

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 7 May 2012 15:46

For reference - marriage:

Name: Silphine Irwin
Spouse Name: Thomas Tully
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 6 Jun 1843
Parish: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Irwin
Spouse Father Name: Richard Tully
Register Type: Parish Register

poppygirl

poppygirl Report 7 May 2012 15:47

Hello Reg, I found this couple when I was trawling through the entries for an Irwin with the same parents names. When I checked the marriage it seems that her father had the same occupation as one of the other siblings that I have for her.

Strange as she doesn't appear in the births, though unless she went under another name at the time of her christening.???

poppygirl

poppygirl Report 7 May 2012 15:48

thanks looking for any census for her and/or birth record please. Thanks for your time all of you

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 May 2012 15:50

Is this a child of the marriage?

Births Jun 1844 (>99%)
Tully Thomas St Geo East 2 99

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 May 2012 15:50

So who are you actually researching?

poppygirl

poppygirl Report 7 May 2012 15:51

It could be I can look to see if it gives the mother's maiden name on the records.

Kuros

Kuros Report 7 May 2012 15:53

You'll need parish records for her birth as it was before 1837. These are sometimes only available in record offices.

poppygirl

poppygirl Report 7 May 2012 15:55

I am trying to find out more about Silphine Irwin who married Thomas Tulley. But, as I couldn't find out anoything about her, I tried to look for her after marriage, to no avail.

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 May 2012 15:56

is it possible these could be them 1851
TULLY, Thomas Head Married M 30 1821 Blacksmith
Spitalfields
Middlesex VIEW
TULLY, Sophia Wife Married F 29 1822 Shirt Worker
St Georges
Middlesex VIEW
TULLY, Thomas Son M 7 1844 Scholar
St Georges
Middlesex VIEW
TULLY, William Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1851
St Georges
Middlesex VIEW
Piece:
1547 Folio:
220 Page:
24 Registration District:
Saint George in the East

Civil Parish:
Saint George in the East Municipal Borough:
The Tower Hamlets Address:
21, Umberston Street, Saint George In The East, The Tower Hamlets County:
Middlesex

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 May 2012 15:57

Name: Thomas Tully
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Tully
Mother's Name: Sophia Tully
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: St Georges, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St George in the East
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image
Registration district: St George In The East
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 123
Piece: 1547
Folio: 220
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Tully 31 Blacksmith, b. Spitalfields
Sophia Tully 29 b. St Georges, Middx
Thomas Tully 9****************IMAGE is 7
William Tully 3 months

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 May 2012 15:58

Please note:

The surname is TULLY - no 'e'

Kuros

Kuros Report 7 May 2012 15:59

On the 1851 census there is a Sophia Tully, married to a Thomas in the right area. Possible? Her name - being unusual - may have been misheard by the enumerator.

Annie

That's what Reggie has found above. And Maddie.

poppygirl

poppygirl Report 7 May 2012 15:59

Oh yes, I think I saw that one, but wasn't sure as Thomas' occupation, at time of marriage was an engineer, I believe. Could that have been classed as that, in those days.?? All the other data seems to tie in, doesn't it !

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 May 2012 16:04

Name: John Irvin
[John Irwin]
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Civil parish: St George Middlesex
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: St George in the East
Sub-registration district: St Paul
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 697
Book: 8
Folio: 16
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
John Irvin 50
Elizabeth Irvin 40
Angelo Irvin 30
Elizabeth Irvin 20
S?? Irvin 19
Mary Irvin 15
John Irvin 10
Robert Irvin 6
Irvin 4
Irvin 2
Alicia Ewan 20


Having looked at the image, I'm astonished that anyone could decipher anything!

Eileen

Eileen Report 7 May 2012 16:07

Hello,
on 29th July 1846,St George in the \east. Richard born 12th July to Thomas and Sophia. John is an Engineer.
Eileen

poppygirl

poppygirl Report 7 May 2012 16:21

thanks Eileen

poppygirl

poppygirl Report 7 May 2012 16:23

yes that image was bad, wasn't it Reg. I had to zoom in as much as possible to get anything at all.