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Dea Xxx

thank you guys you helped me out alot today ive still not solved it yet but i reckon with your brilliant work i might just get some where xxx

Lisa

Please help people to help you by spacing out your messages.

A block of unpunctuated text is hard to decipher - and many people simply won't bother

If you would use capital initial letters for names it would also be very helpful

- ah Dea, you beat me to it (I'm just going out too!), and you have found the 1841 census, hooray, which ties in Mary.

I'll catch up later.

Just posting some possible sightings for John and Eliza:

1861: St Mary, Nottinghamshire
Eliza Britton born abt 1822 in Nott Head Unmarried Lacemender
James Britton born abt 1844 in Nott Brother Unmarried Printer

1871: St Mary, Nottinghamshire
Eliza Button born abt 1822 in Nott Head Unmarried Lace mender
John Button born abt 1844 in Nott (Son) Married Windsor Chair maker
Sarah Rebe Button born abt 1849 in Nott (Son’s wife) Married

1881: Sneinton, Nottinghamshire
Eliza Brittan born abt 1821 in Nott (Head) Widow Lace mender
John Brittan born abt 1845 in Nott (Son) unm chairmaker

1891: Snenton, Nottinghamshire
Eliza Britton 69 b abt 1822 in Nott (Head) Lace Hand Widow
John Britton 49 b abt 1842 in Nott (Son) Chair maker Married
Mary Beeby 65 b abt 1826 in Nott Lodger Lace Hand Widow

I am going to post all this because I have found it but can't quite tie it all together yet and have to go off for a while:

Looks like Eliza was unmarried and not a widow ?? - maybe Mary's sister?? (making Mary John's aunt) ?

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1891:
BRITTON, Eliza Head Widow F 69 1822 Lace Hand Nottingham VIEW
BRITTON, John Son Married M 49 1842 Chair Maker Nottingham VIEW
BEEBY, Mary Lodger Widow F 65 1826 Lace Hand Nottingham VIEW

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Piece:
2706 Folio:
65 Page:
5 Registration District:
Nottingham

Civil Parish:
Snenton Municipal Borough:
Nottingham Address:
16, Pointers Avenue, Snenton, Nottingham County:
Nottinghamshire


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1881:
BRITTAN, Eliza Head Widow F 60 1821 Lace Mender Nottingham VIEW
BRITTAN, John Son Single M 36 1845 Chair Maker (Cabt) Nottingham VIEW

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Piece:
3348 Folio:
102 Page:
24 Registration District:
Nottingham

Civil Parish:
Snenton Municipal Borough:
Address:
St Marys Gardens, Snenton County:
Nottinghamshire


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1871
BRITTON, Eliza Head F 49 1822 Nottinghamshire VIEW
BRITTON, John Son M 27 1844 Nottinghamshire VIEW
BRITTON, Sarak Kate Son's Wife F 22 1849 Nottinghamshire VIEW

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Piece:
3506 Folio:
80 Page:
29 Registration District:
Nottingham

Civil Parish:
St Mary Municipal Borough:
Nottingham Address:
Trinity Street Trinity Place, St Mary, Nottingham County:
Nottinghamshire


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1861
BRITTON, Eliza Head Unmarried F 39 1822 Lace Mender Nottingham VIEW
BRITTON, James Brother Unmarried M 17 1844 Printer Nottingham VIEW

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Piece:
2453 Folio:
74 Page:
15 Registration District:
Nottingham

Civil Parish:
St Mary Municipal Borough:
Nottingham Address:
North Street, St Mary, Nottingham County:
Nottinghamshire


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1851:
BRITTAIN, James Head Married M 26 1825 Master Chair Maker Employ 6 Men Nottinghamshire VIEW
BRITTAIN, Sarah Wife Married F 25 1826 Nottinghamshire VIEW
BRITTAIN, Maria Daughter F 5 1846 Scholar Nottinghamshire VIEW
BRITTAIN, James Son M 4 1847 Scholar Snenton Nottinghamshire VIEW
BRITTAIN, Alexander Son M 1 1850 Nottinghamshire VIEW

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Piece:
2133 Folio:
404 Page:
30 Registration District:
Nottingham

Civil Parish:
St Nicholas Municipal Borough:
Nottingham Address:
Sawyer Arms Yard, Lister Gate, St Nicholas, Nottingham County:
Nottinghamshire

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1841:
BRITTON, James M 40 1801 Nottinghamshire VIEW Whip maker
BRITTON, Sarah F 30 1811 Nottinghamshire VIEW
BRITTON, James M 15 1826 Nottinghamshire VIEW
BRITTON, Joseph M 10 1831 Nottinghamshire VIEW
BRITTON, Alexander M 10 1831 Nottinghamshire VIEW
BRITTON, Mary F 5 1836 Nottinghamshire VIEW
BRITTON, Emma F 5 1836 Nottinghamshire VIEW
BRITTON, William M 0 (1 months) 1841 Nottinghamshire VIEW
RICHARDS, Hannah F 25 1816 Nottinghamshire VIEW
RICHARDS, William M 1 1840 Nottinghamshire VIEW

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Piece:
870 Book/Folio:
14/31 Page:
20 Registration District:
Nottingham

Civil Parish:
St Mary Municipal Borough:
Nottingham Address:
Parliament Street, St Mary, Nottingham County:
Nottinghamshire


Needs more work..............

Dea Xxx

There is this death record, transcribed as follows:

Sarah Elizabeth Plack abt 1847 Oct-Nov-Dec 1908 Nottingham Nottinghamshire

However, the typed index says Place, not Plack, and the age at death may be 51 rather than 61.

hiya dea, i checked my notes and on the cencus it says 1828 but on the death record it says 1825 she died in 1891 and was 66 years of age x

What birth date do you have for Mary Britton/Beeby please?

Dea x

thanks ivy ill order it and see what is says

Would Eliza Ann's birth certificate provide any useful information?

Name: Eliza Ann Brittan
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1901
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 330

thanks dea,when i looked it up it on 1911 it was the same but it said so william john britton so not sure why it came up like that. But this is defo my family thanks but what i cant understand is the connection between them all. why is he down as sarah and johns step father and why was his daughter classed as william beebys sister on his death cert ???????

Q2c:

On this transcription for the 1911 census, the head of the household is transcribed as Mr John Britton:

Name: Mr John Britton
Age in 1911: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Emily Terrace Dawson St
Marital Status: Widowed
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration District Number: 430
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Piece: 20582
Household Members:
Name Age
John Britton 69
Eliza Ann Britton 10
Sarah Elizebeth Place 22
John James Place 16
Elizebeth Richardson 50

- which fits with the John Britton you found on the 1891 census:

Name: John Britton
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Parent's Name: Eliza Britton
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Snenton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham South East
ED, institution, or vessel: 42

Piece: 2706
Folio: 65
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Britton 69
John Britton 49
Mary Beeby 65

thanks dea i know mary brittain was willliams 3rd wife and mary norwell was sarahs elizabeth beebys mother,after mary died william and sarah up sticks to nottingham where he married mary brittain they are all found living together on an 1871 cencus x

This appears to be your William in 1891:

1891 England Census
about William Beeby Name: William Beeby
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Inmate of School (Inmate)
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Chester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England


Registration district: Chester
Sub-registration district: Chester Castle
ED, institution, or vessel:

Industrial School Boughton Chester for Poor Children ***

Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2863
Folio: 169
Page Number: 5

Dea x

Lisa,

Can you please put a few line spaces in your meassages as they are extremely difficult to read with no white space between ;-)

Are you a member of Ancestry?

If not, it would be worth you taking out a 14 day free trial with them as the tree on Ancestry seems to be very well researched and has lots of certs scanned in.

Dea x

A tree on Ancestry shows this to be the marriage of Sarah's parents and Mary was NOT a Beeby:
They have the certs.

Marriages Sep 1856
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BEEBY William Basford 7b 176
NORNELL Mary Basford 7b 176
Norvell Mary Basford 7b 176

William was a widower when he married Mary.


This looks like her on 1851 census.:

1851 England Census
about Mary Norwell Name: Mary Norwell
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Norwell
Mother's Name: Suzanna Norwell
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Barkby, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Barkby
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England


Registration district: Barrow Upon Soar
Sub-registration district: Barrow
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Piece: 2087
Folio: 638
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
William Norwell 55 Frame Work Knitter
Suzanna Norwell 56
Mary Norwell 23
Ward Norwell 20
Hannah Norwell 17
Mary Allice Norwell 1


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2087; Folio: 638; Page: 17; GSU roll: 87714-87715.


Mary Norwell was his second wife and the mother of Sarah.

His first wife Elizabeth had died in 1855,

Dea x

so far you have the right cencus for sarah and yes joseph did marry elizabeth johnson in 1811 well done guys great work so far

sorry i know its a bit confusing but thanks for you interest guys.right in 1811 joseph beeby married elizabeth johnson.in 1821 there son was born william beeby .william beeby daughter sarah elizabeth beeby was born 1856 in loughborough they then moved to nottingham after sarahs mum died from childbirth.william went on to marry mary brittain i think it was around 1865 william beeby died in 1876 in nottingham his daughter sarah elizabeth then gave birth to william henry beeby in 1876 who was illeg.a year later sarah went on to marry samuel place she is found on 1881 cencus living with samuel and william henry,but theres no sign of mary beeby(brittain) she was born in 1828 according to 1871 cencus.on the 1891 census mary was living with eliza britton and elizas son john britton.arah was still living with samuel and her daughter sarah elizabeth place on the 1891 cencus but there was no sign of william henry beeby.in 1891 mary beeby died and in 1895 samuel place died leaving sarah a widow.in 1901 sarah place was on the census as a widow living with her son william henry beeby and his wife edith ellen beeby and her other 2 children sarah elizabeth place and john james place.william henry beeby died mar 1936 the informant was eliza ann sudbury who was formally britton she was down as william henrys sister.and on the 1911 sarah elizabeth place and john james place where living with eliza ann britton and her father william john britton and they where names as his step children.after 1901 i do not know what happen to sarah elizabeth beeby(place)

Surely this must be them on 1881, even though the middle name does not match??

1881 England Census
about Sarah Ann Place Name: Sarah Ann Place
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Samuel Place
Gender: Female
Where born: Lough, Leicestershire, England
[Loughborough, Leicestershire, England]

Civil parish: Nottingham St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address: 18 Crown Court
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Lace Worker

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: St Ann
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3356
Folio: 147
Page Number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Place 29 Gen. Labourer b. Stavey, Derbs???
Sarah Ann Place 24
William Henry Place 5


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3356; Folio: 147; Page: 23; GSU roll: 1341801.

I will check further............

Dea x