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I am trying to find information about Horace Frederick Martin c 1889.
Born in Bow, London. Parents Edwin Martin c 1856 & Jemima Hoddinott c1854.
sisters : Annie, Lilian, Emily and Beatrice.
He married Elsie G Riddiford in lewisham in 1920.
Now I am stuck so any helpwould be much appreciated.
Thank you
Ann

have you looked on any census?

1911

Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
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MARTIN, Edwin Head Married M 57 1854 Ticket Collector Salop Donnington VIEW
MARTIN, Jemima Wife Married
26 years F 56 1855 Dorset Sherborne VIEW
MARTIN, Annie Daughter Single F 25 1886 Assistant Teacher London Bow VIEW
MARTIN, Emily Daughter Single F 24 1887 Clerk London Bow VIEW
MARTIN, Horace Son Single M 22 1889 Clerk London Bow VIEW
MARTIN, Lilian Daughter Single F 15 1896 London Bromley VIEW
MARTIN, Beatrice Daughter Single F 13 1898 School London Bromley VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1685 Reference:
RG14PN1685 RG78PN59 RD22 SD2 ED8 SN138

Registration District:
Poplar Sub District:
Bromley Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Poplar Borough

Address:
138 Teviot Street County:
London

Andy

1901
Name: Horace F Martin
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edwin A Martin
Mother's Name: Jemima M Martin
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, London, England
Civil parish: Bromley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew Bromley
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 95
Piece: 345
Folio: 89
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin A Martin 47 occ ticket collecetor N L N L born Donnington salop
Jemima M Martin 46 b Sherborne Dorset
Horace F Martin 12
Lilian M Martin 5
Beatrice H Martin 3
Ethel M Priestley 7 niece

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 345; Folio: 89; Page: 12.

Name: Edwin Andrew Martin
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1884
Registration district: Sherborne
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume Number: 5a
Page Number: 801
spouse Jemima Mary Hoddinott

Name: Horace Frederick Martin
Birth Date: 19 Aug 1889
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1975
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: Reading & Wokingham
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 19
Page: 0189

Name: Horace Frederick Martin
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 24 Feb.1889
Baptism Date: 16 May 1889
Father's Name: Edwin Andrew Martin (Under Guard)
Mother's Name: Jemima Amelia Martin
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bromley St Leonard St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers
Address: Bromley

Parents marriage for info

Dorset, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
about Edwin Andrew Martin
Name: Edwin Andrew Martin
Birth Year: abt 1854
Age: 30
Marriage or Bann Date: 29 Dec 1884
Parish: Sherborne
Father's Name: William Martin( Bricklayer)
Spouse's Name: Jemima Mary Hoddinott
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Hoddinott (Carpenter)

Andy

Hi
Thank you for your reply.
Yes I have the census records, but am then lost after his marriage to Elsie.
Horace is my grandmother's brother and nobody in the family seems to have any knowledge of him.
Regards
Ann

are you sure he was still alive in 1920? or this just a coincidence ?


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UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919

Name: Horace Frederick Martin
Birth Place: Bow, London
Residence: Poplar London
Death Date: 31 Jul 1915
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: St. Paul's Churchyard, London
Rank: Private
Regiment: Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry
Battalion: 6th Battalion
Number: 12290
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre




http://www.cwgc.org


MARTIN, HORACE FREDERICK
Rank:Private
Service No:12290
Date of Death:31/07/1915
Age:26
Regiment/Service:Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry
"C" Coy. 6th Bn.
Panel ReferencePanel 20.
MemorialYPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Edwin and Mary Martin; husband of Adelaide Ursula Newman (formerly Martin), of School House, Pulham, Dorchester

1891
Name: Edwin A Martin
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jemima M Martin
Gender: Male
Where born: Donnington, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:5 Cross Street

Occupation:Railway ticket collector

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 319
Folio: 27
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin A Martin 36
Jemima M Martin 35
Horace F Martin 2
Emily V Martin 9

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 319; Folio: 27; Page: 1; GSU roll: 6095429.

Do you actually have the 1920 marriage cert ?

Name: Annie Elizabeth Martin
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 31 Oct 1885
Baptism Date: 3 Jan 1886
Father's Name: Edwin Andrew Martin (Railwat Guard)
Mother's Name: Jemima Mary Martin
Parish or Poor Law Union: Woolwich St John
Borough: Greenwich
Register Type: Parish Registers
Address: 46 Morville Street, Bow

This is Your Horace's birth reg.

Births Mar 1889 Martin Horace Frederick Poplar 1c 668


I think that the one who died in 1975 may this man.

Births Sep 1889 MARTIN Horace Frederic Wangford 4a 879


So as Glitterbaby has asked to you have the marriage certificate for the man that you think is your Horace please?

Births Jun 1886 Gartell Adelaide Ursula Dorchester 5a 352


Marriages Jun 1919
Martin Adelaide M Newman Dorchester 5a 1063
Newman William J Martin Dorchester 5a 1063


Name: Adelaide U Newman
Birth Date: abt 1886
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1959
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Weymouth
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 7c
Page: 772

Shame the 1920 marriage is not on London Marriages on Ancestry to check it out

I presume the poster has gone by location for a possible marriage and not got the cert

Births Dec 1893 Riddiford Elsie Gertrude Lewisham 1d 1166a

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Name: Elsie G Martin
Birth Date: abt 1894
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1964
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: Lewisham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 97

Yes, I do think that is what has happened Glitterbaby. Further proof, if we needed it, that it is essential to work from facts and not possibilities if you wish to build an accurate tree.

Certainly need some feedback especially about the marriage cert as at the moment it looks like he did not marry Elsie