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annie ellen douch born 1874 croydon

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K Report 17 Apr 2012 12:55

I think that the 1891 Annie Douch might well be this Annie in 1881 with the location of Horsebridge.

However a tree on Ancestry lists this Annie with a marriage on 24 Dec 1892 - Cranbrook, Kent, to James William Stratford so the 1891 Annie Douch in Mile End is probably not the right Annie.

Edit - Just found Annie below in 1891 with parents so she is not the Annie in 1891 in Mile End


1881

Name: Annie S. Douch
[Annie L. Douch]
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Benjamin Douch
Mother's Name: Mary A. Douch
Gender: Female
Where born: Hellingly, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Hellingly
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address: Upper Horsebridge
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Hailsham
Sub-registration district: Hellingly
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1043
Folio: 14
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Douch 40
Mary A. Douch 30
Frank Douch 12
Sarah A. Douch 11
Annie S. Douch 6
Gertrude Douch 4
Alice M. Douch 2
George Pilbeam 23


SuffolkVera

SuffolkVera Report 16 Apr 2012 18:37

Glitterbaby, the John & Mary Ann Douch are my family from the Peckham area and I haven't yet found any connection with them and Lorraine's family but I live in hopes.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Apr 2012 18:30

I wonder
Name: Annie Louisa Douch
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1874
Registration district: Hailsham
Inferred County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 80

HORSEBRIDGE, a village in Hellingly parish, Sussex; on the river Cuckmere, adjacent to the Hailsham and Uckfield railway, 2 miles NNW of Hailsham.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Apr 2012 18:28

on the 1891 she says born Sussex again

Name: Annie Donch
[Annie Douch]
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Female
Where born: Horsebridge, Sussex, England>>>>>>
Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls Bow Common
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: Whitechapel Union Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 313
Folio: 104
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Apr 2012 18:27

1911 no idea if connected or not

DOUCH, John Head Married M 62 1849 Bricklayer London Walworth VIEW
DOUCH, Mary Ann Wife Married
56 years F 44 1867 London Walworth VIEW
DOUCH, Flo Maud Daughter Single F 26 1885 Collar Machinist Laundry London Peckham VIEW
DOUCH, Amelia Daughter Single F 21 1890 Shirt Machinist Laundry London Peckham VIEW
DOUCH, Alfred Son Single M 18 1893 Traveller Soap Work London Peckham VIEW
MARSHALL, Daisy Boarder Single F 26 1885 General Ironer Laundry East Dulwich London VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2555 Reference:
RG14PN2555 RG78PN86 RD27 SD5 ED12 SN341

Registration District:
Camberwell Sub District:
Peckham North Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
Camberwell

Address:
179 Summer Road Peckham S E

6 children - 5 still alive

Think the number of years married might be 36

They do have a daughter Ellen b 1882 but in Peckham
So probably rules them out

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 16 Apr 2012 18:22

hi
when she married in 1916 in horsham to henry light she is aged 36 so birth would be 1880 easthouse sussex
in 1913 on her son alberts birth she is living at 136 crawley road aged
36?
she died in 1954 her daughter mary grey was the informant she was aged 76 so birth would be 1878 but mary was unsure of her age when the death cert was done and it was done on the familys best guess lol mary is now suffering with memory loss unfortunatly and her sisters wont spill any beans
on her daughter charitys birth record she is listed as annie daitch born east house sussex aged 43 so birth would be 1877
on her marriage her dad is john douch a bricklayer ???
i have lots of info on certs but still cant find her or records which would make sence i am hoping one day i will find her
thanks for everyones help and vera i am hoping we share the same family one day and thanks for your help its really great :-D :-D :-D

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Apr 2012 17:46

and Henry

Name: Henry Light
Birth Date: abt 1876
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1943
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Horsham
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 511

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Apr 2012 17:45

Heres her death confirming an 1878 birth


Name: Annie Light
Birth Date: abt 1878
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1954
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Horsham
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 478

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Apr 2012 17:40

1901 still says Eastbourne but now c 1878

LIGHT, Henry Head Married M 25 1876 Hawker
Horsham
Sussex VIEW
LIGHT, Ann Wife Married F 23 1878
East Bourne
Sussex VIEW
LIGHT, Henry Son Single M 0 (11 MOS) 1901
Horsham
Sussex VIEW
LIGHT, Olive Visitor Married F 30 1871 Hawker
Kent VIEW
LIGHT, Lizzy Visitor Single F 10 1891
Dartford
Kent VIEW
LIGHT, Walter Visitor Single M 23 1878 Hawker
Burgess Hill
Kent VIEW
Piece:
949 Folio:
55 Page:
13 Registration District:
Horsham

Civil Parish:
Horsham Municipal Borough:
Address:
Star Road, Horsham, Roffey County:
Sussex

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Apr 2012 17:29

according to the 1911 she was born in Eastbourne c1881

LIGHT, Henry Head Married M 37 1874 Labourer General Burgess Hill Sussex VIEW
LIGHT, Annie Wife Married F 30 1881 Eastbourne VIEW
LIGHT, Walter Son M 9 1902 Horsham Sussex VIEW
LIGHT, Rose Daughter F 7 1904 Horsham Sussex VIEW
LIGHT, Elvy Daughter F 4 1907 Horsham Sussex VIEW
LIGHT, Mary Daughter F 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Horsham Sussex VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5255 Reference:
RG14PN5255 RG78PN233 RD81 SD2 ED9 SN131

Registration District:
Horsham Sub District:
North Horsham Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Horsham

Address:
136 Crawley Road Roffey Horsham County:
Sussex
married 13 years 6 children 2 died

SuffolkVera

SuffolkVera Report 16 Apr 2012 17:27

I'm always interested in your posts Lorraine as I am sure your Douch family and my Douch family will eventually tie up.

Am I being stupid here or am I missing something? If Choccy has found the death in 1903 of the Annie Douch that married Charles McKennie, then she can't be your Annie Douch that married Henry Light in 1916.

EDIT: Sorry, GR is being slow tonight and I submitted this before your earlier post was showing

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Apr 2012 17:26

so she had another two after they married
Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
LIGHT Albert Douch Horsham 2b 490
Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
Light Thomas D Douch Horsham 2b 459

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Apr 2012 17:23

how old does she say she is on the marriage cert

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 16 Apr 2012 17:12

hi all
so if that annie mckimmie dies in 1903 and he remarries then thats another dead end for my searches ???????
oh well i seem to have now ruled out all annie douch records for 1870 to 1885 and none are mine lol
dont think i will ever find out the truth i rearly thought i might be getting some where today but never mind
back to square one for the millionth time
its a good job i keep my glass half full
many thanks for all the help you are all brill :-D :-D :-D

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 16 Apr 2012 17:04

him being single in 1901 would make sence as i think she is living with henry light in horsham in 1901 listed as ann/annie light

when they got married how easy was it to get a divorse or could they just be separated for a few years then remarry ???? as she had lots of children with henry light but did not marry him till 1916 horsham and on that cert she says she is single lol
she was in the work house white chapel union in 1891 listed as annie douch aged 17 a pauper domestic and i cant understand why she went in there when her family were living in the parish of penge croydon surrey then she marrys in 1874 but could not work out partner to trace them on lol
thanks for your help all :-D :-D

Choccy

Choccy Report 16 Apr 2012 17:03



Deaths Jun 1903 (>99%)
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McKimmie Annie 28 Derby 7b 322



looks like he re-married -

Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)
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>>>>>Barrett Harriet Elizabeth Derby 7b 1162
Butler Florence Derby 7b 1162
>>>>McKIMMIE Charles Stewart Derby 7b 1162
Mills Benjamin Derby 7b 1162




1911

MCKIMMIE, Charles Stewart Head Married M 40 1871 Policeman Huntley Aberdeen Scotland Resident VIEW
MCKIMMIE, Harriett Elizabeth Wife Married
5 years F 38 1873 Croyden Surrey VIEW
MCKIMMIE, Mary Stewart Daughter F 4 1907 Derby Derbyshire VIEW
MCKIMMIE, Charles Stewart Son M 3 1908 Derby Derbyshire VIEW
MCKIMMIE, Maggie Stewart Daughter F 1 1910 Manchester Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
24106 Reference:
RG14PN24106 RG78PN1385 RD466 SD1 ED18 SN278

Registration District:
Manchester Sub District:
Ancoats Enumeration District:
18 Parish:
Manchester

Address:
Cottage Old Hall Every Street Ancoats Manchester County:
Lancashire

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Apr 2012 17:01

looks like Choccy has found her ! :-D

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Apr 2012 17:00

1881 census
1881 England Census about Annie Douch
Name: Annie Douch
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Daniel Douch
Mother's Name: Ellen Douch
Gender: Female
Where born: Penge, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Penge
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: 34 Hawthorn Grove
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 65
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 824
Folio: 117
Page Number: 59
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Douch 35
Ellen Douch 35
Edward Douch 12
Albert Douch 9
Annie Douch 7
Arnold Douch 1

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 824; Folio: 117; Page: 59; GSU roll: 1341194.

only one in the Croydon area

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 16 Apr 2012 16:56

thanks shirley
so that means its between albert ernest ward and charles steward mckennie then, i could not find them and annie on the 1901 or 1911 census records i have been finding info on her all day then i found the marriage record and no luck since
thanks for your help it is appriciated
lorraine :-D :-D

Choccy

Choccy Report 16 Apr 2012 16:55



this could be them -

1901

MCKIMMIE, Charles S Head Married M 30 1871 Police Constable
Scotland VIEW
MCKIMMIE, Annie Wife Married F 27 1874
Penge
Surrey VIEW
MORTON, Hilda Visitor Single F 17 1884 Milliners Assistant
Chesterfield
Derbyshire VIEW

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Piece:
3220 Folio:
7 Page:
5 Registration District:
Derby

Civil Parish:
Derby Municipal Borough:
Address:
29, Olive Street, Derby County:
Derbyshire