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Herman MOAKES /MOKES was born in South Normanton in 1825 to Sarah Moakes. I have found him in 1841 & 1851 but after that - nothing. He married someone called Ann (but no marriage found) and had 3 children. George 1855, John 1857 and Louisa 1860 all born at SN. In 1871 I have found John & George living with a Isaac Spencer and wife Ann and here is the mystery as there is a marriage on FreeBMD of a Ann Moakes to Isaac Spencer, but no death of Herman. I have now found a court record dated 1895 of a Herman Moakes who was accused of an assult. Same Herman??? I can't find any Herman's in any census after 1851. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks

Carol

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Name: Louisa Mokes
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 16 Aug 1861
Baptism/Christening Place: SOUTH NORMANTON,DERBY,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date: 26 Oct 1861
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Henry Mokes
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Cinderella
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06101-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 428940, 498126
Reference Number:

Marriages Sep 1858 (>99%)
Ball Hannah Mansfield 7b 75
Gaskin Cinderella Mansfield 7b 75
Moakes Henry Mansfield 7b 75
Spencer George Mansfield 7b 75

Did he become Edward?


Marriages Mar 1854 (>99%)
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Mokes Edward Belper 7b 616 <<<<<<<<<<
ROBINSON Julia Belper 7b 616
SHORE Ann Belper 7b 616 <<<<<<<<<<<
Wigston William Robert Belper 7b 616

1861 England Census
about Ann Mokes
Name: Ann Mokes
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: South Normanton, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: South Normanton
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England


Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Blackwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Piece: 2425
Folio: 49
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Mokes 32
Elizabeth Shore 8
George Moke 6
John Moke 4
Louesa Moke 1

never ever heard Cinderella as a forename!! [other than poor Cinders]

Herman Moakes
England and Wales Census, 1841
birth: 1826 Derbyshire
census: 1841 South Normanton,? Derbyshire,? England


name: Herman Moakes
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 15
birthplace: Derbyshire
record type: Household
registration district: Mansfield Union
sub-district: Blackwell
civil parish: South Normanton
county: Derbyshire

Herman Moakes
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 02 Mar 1825 SOUTH NORMANTON,?DERBY,?ENGLAND
parents: Sarah Moakes


name: Herman Moakes
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 02 Mar 1825
baptism/christening place: SOUTH NORMANTON,DERBY,ENGLAND
mother's name: Sarah Moakes
indexing project (batch) number: C06101-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 428940, 498126

Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close Name: MOKES, Edward
Registration district: Mansfield
County: Nottinghamshire
Year of registration: 1857
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume no: 7B
Page no: 31

Did little Louisa die


Deaths Dec 1861 (>99%)
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Mokes Louisa Mansfield 7b 35

1871 England Census
about John Mokes
Name: John Mokes
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: South Normanton, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: South Normanton
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Blackwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 248
Piece: 3467
Folio: 91
Page Number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Isaac Spencer 51
Ann Spencer 43
George Spencer 19
George Mokes 16
John Mokes 14
Eliza Spencer 15
Louisa Spencer 11

Sarah Moakes
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1850 South Normanton,? Derbyshire,? England
census: 1881 South Normanton (Derby),? Nottinghamshire,? England


name: Sarah Moakes
age: 31
gender: Female
birth year: 1850
birthplace: South Normanton, Derbyshire, England
relationship to head of household: Boarder
marital condition: Single
address: Lees Lane
census place: South Normanton (Derby), Nottinghamshire, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341789
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 3313 / 120
page number: 28

Thanks everyone for your replies. It has given me something to work on.


Carol

1891 England Census
Name: John Morakes
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: South Normanton, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: South Normanton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: South Normanton
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England


Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Blackwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2651
Folio: 42
Page Number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
Isaac Spencer 71
Elizabeth Green 58
George Green 17
Fred Green 11
Som Rolfe 15
Annie Rolfe 13
Annie Pepper 15
John Morakes 34

Herman Moakes
England and Wales Census, 1841
birth: 1826 Derbyshire
census: 1841 South Normanton,? Derbyshire,? England


name: Herman Moakes
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 15
birthplace: Derbyshire
record type: Household
registration district: Mansfield Union
sub-district: Blackwell
civil parish: South Normanton
county: Derbyshire

Herman Moakes
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: South Normanton,? Derbyshire
census: 1911 South Normanton,? South Normanton Alfreton,? Nottinghamshire,? England


name: Herman Moakes
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 19
birthplace: South Normanton, Derbyshire
record type: Household
registration district: Mansfield
sub-district: Blackwell
parish: South Normanton
county: Nottinghamshire

Herman Moakes
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 02 Mar 1825 SOUTH NORMANTON,?DERBY,?ENGLAND
parents: Sarah Moakes


name: Herman Moakes
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 02 Mar 1825
baptism/christening place: SOUTH NORMANTON,DERBY,ENGLAND
mother's name: Sarah Moakes
indexing project (batch) number: C06101-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 428940, 498126

Hermon Moakes
England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: South Normanton,? Derbyshire
census: 1891 England


name: Hermon Moakes
event: Census
event date: 1891
gender: Male
age: 22
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: South Normanton, Derbyshire
record type: Household
registration district: Mansfield
sub-district: Blackwell
ecclesiastical parish: St Michaels
county: Nottinghamshire

Hermon Moakes
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1892 S Normanton,? Derbyshire
census: 31 Mar 1901 South Normanton (Derby),? Nottinghamshire,? England


name: Hermon Moakes
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 9
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: S Normanton, Derbyshire
record type: Household
registration district: Mansfield
sub-district: Blackwell
ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
civil parish: South Normanton (Derby)
county: Nottinghamshire

Hermon Moakes
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1868 South Normanton,? Derbyshire
census: 31 Mar 1901 Pleasley (Derby),? Nottinghamshire,? England


name: Hermon Moakes
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 33
relationship to head of household: Boarder
birthplace: South Normanton, Derbyshire
record type: Household
registration district: Mansfield
sub-district: Pleasley
ecclesiastical parish: Pleasley St Michael
civil parish: Pleasley (Derby)
county: Nottinghamshire

Hermon Moaks
England and Wales Census, 1851
birth: S Normanton,? Derbyshire
census: 1851 England


name: Hermon Moaks
age: 24
gender: M
birthplace: S Normanton, Derbyshire
relationship to head of household: Lodger
record type: Household

Herman Moakes Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: About 1869 South Normanton, Derby, England
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Parents:
Father: Mathew Moakes Family
Mother: Mrs. Mathew Moakes

1881

George MOAKES Head M Male 26 Sth Normanton, Derby, England Coal Miner
Annie MOAKES Wife M Female 21 Sth Normanton, Derby, England Coal Miner Wife
John G. MOAKES Son Male 2 Sth Normanton, Derby, England
Annie M. MOAKES Daur Female 4 m Sth Normanton, Derby, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Water Lane
Census Place South Normanton, Derby, England
Family History Library Film 1341790
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3314 / 33
Page Number 13

Hi Ann in Cardiff

Can you give more details of the Hermon Moakes you find in 1891 1901 who was born in 1868. It say he was son, so who were his parents. This maybe the Hermon I found in the court case dated 1895

Thanks very much
Carol

Thanks Ann

I see your other post

Carol

this might come in useful for you some time when you get further back

Husband's Name
Francis MOAKES (AFN:CRZR-NK) Pedigree

Born: Abt 1741 Place: Of, Tibshelf, Derby, Eng.
Married: 27 Oct 1766 Place: Tibshelf, Derby, Eng.

Father:
Mother:

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Wife's Name
Ann COOPE (AFN:CRZR-PQ) Pedigree

Born: 1745 Place:
Christened: 30 Jun 1745 Place: Tibshelf, Derby, Eng.
Buried: 5 Jun 1782 Place:
Married: 27 Oct 1766 Place: Tibshelf, Derby, Eng.

Father: Thomas COOPE (AFN:LX62-J6) Family
Mother: Elizabeth (AFN:LX62-KC)

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Children

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1. Sex Name
M William MOAKES (MAWKES) (AFN:LX62-0F) Pedigree

Born: 1767 Place:
Christened: 14 Jun 1767 Place: Tibshelf, Derby, Eng.
Buried: 22 Dec 1850 Place: Tibshelf, Derby, Eng.

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2. Sex Name
F Mary MOAKES (MAWKES) (AFN:LX62-GT) Pedigree

Born: 1768 Place:
Christened: 27 Nov 1768 Place: Tibshelf, Derby, Eng.

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3. Sex Name
F Sarah MOAKES (MAWKES) (AFN:LX61-TL) Pedigree

Born: 1771 Place:
Christened: 27 Jun 1771 Place: Tibshelf, Derby, Eng.
Buried: 3 Sep 1785 Place: Tibshelf, Derby, Eng.

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4. Sex Name
F Hannah MOAKES (MAWKES) (AFN:LX61-VR) Pedigree

Born: 1774 Place:
Christened: 7 Apr 1774 Place: Tibshelf, Derby, Eng.

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5. Sex Name
F Elizabeth MOAKES (MAWKES) (AFN:LX61-WX) Pedigree

Born: 1775 Place:
Christened: 31 Oct 1775 Place: Tibshelf, Derby, Eng.
Buried: 15 Sep 1779 Place: Tibshelf, Derby, Eng.

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6. Sex Name
F Phebe MOAKES (MAWKES) (AFN:LX61-X4) Pedigree

Born: 1778 Place:
Christened: 1 Mar 1778 Place: Tibshelf, Derby, Eng.

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7. Sex Name
M Francis MOAKES (MAWKES) (AFN:LX62-CB) Pedigree

Born: 1781 Place:
Christened: 18 Mar 1781 Place: Tibshelf, Derby, Eng.

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8. Sex Name
F Ann MOAKES (MAWKES) (AFN:4NND-Z7) Pedigree

Born: 21 Feb 1773 Place: Of South Normant, Derbyshire, England
Christened: 21 Feb 1773 Place: Tibshelf, Derby, Eng
Died: 29 Nov 1853 Place: S. Normanton, Derby, Eng
Buried: 29 Nov 1853 Place: South Normanton, Derbyshire, England

Husband's Name
Thomas COOPE (AFN:LX62-J6) Pedigree

Born: Abt 1719 Place:

Father:
Mother:

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Wife's Name
Elizabeth (AFN:LX62-KC) Pedigree

Born: Abt 1723 Place:

Father:
Mother:

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Children

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1. Sex Name
F Ann COOPE (AFN:CRZR-PQ) Pedigree

Born: 1745 Place:
Christened: 30 Jun 1745 Place: Tibshelf, Derby, Eng.
Buried: 5 Jun 1782 Place: