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Hi,
I haven't needed help for a while, but, i have been given some info and need advice !!!!!
Benjamin POWELL was born 17th Sept 1831, and died in 1839, buried July 19th 1839, i have been told, i think by Parish Register info his death was a "violent death" and it led to a trial.
Parents of Benjamin were - Moses POWELL and Leah (nee Jenkins)
The area Benjamin lived was Defynnog - Breconshire.
Any info would be great.
Many thanks
Sally

Have you bought his death cert

1841 census
Name: Moses Powell
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Gender: Male
Where born: Breconshire, Wales
Civil parish: Devynnock
Hundred: Devynnock
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Brecknock
Sub-registration district: Devynnock
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1367
Book: 5
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Name
Moses Powell 55
Leah Powell 40
William Powell 20
Thomas Powell 7
Margaret Powell 5
Mary Powell 3
Benjamin Powell 5 Mo
Thomas Jenkins 75

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1367; Book: 5; Civil Parish: Devynnock; County: Breconshire; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 5; Page: 2; Line: 7; GSU roll: 464300.

seems to have been still alive in 1841

1851 ???
Name: Moses Powell
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1784
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lena Powell
Gender: Male
Where born: Devynnock, Breconshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Devynnock
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Brecknock
Sub-registration district: Merthyr Cynog
ED, institution, or vessel: 6b and 10b
Piece: 2489
Folio: 201
Page Number: 14
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Moses Powell 67
Lena Powell 51
Thomas Powell 16
Benjamin Powell 10
Lena Powell 6
David Powell 4
Thomas Jenkins 90

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2489; Folio: 201; Page: 14; GSU roll: 104249-104250.

1841 looks like after he died they named their next child after him

Hi,
No i haven't got the death cert yet, only just found out info this afternoon.
Yes they did have a second son named Benjamin
Was not sure how to find out info about the trial, newspapers etc.
Thanks to all for your help.
Sally :-)

Think I've found a newspaper article, hang on while I transcribe!

HEREFORD JOURNAL, Wednesday 24 July 1873

On the 18th instant, an inquest was held before Henry Maybery, Esq. Coroner, on view of the body of a lad eight years of age, at Devynnock, Breconshire under peculiarly distressing circumstances. It appears from the evidence that Benjamin Powell, the deceased, on Sunday the 30th June, was in company with several boys, two of whom gave evidence on the violent abuse which the unfortunate lad received from the other boys; and a verdict of manslaughter was returned against William Jones, Benjamin Williams and William Price: as the whole matter will be investigated before Baron Gurney, at the approaching assizes, we abstain from commenting further than the deceased died 17th inst. and from medical testimony, wholly in consequence of violent external abuse.

How awful.

Will send the page.

EDIT: The same newspaper on Wednesday 7th August briefly states that the three boys were acquitted.

Oh MC as you said how awful.
I can't get the message you sent me at the moment, but i can see the terrible truth.
Many Many thanks for taking the trouble to look for me.
Regards
Sally :-)

Sally, if you still can't get into the message then send me a private message with your email address and I'll forward that way.

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: Benjamin Williams
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Date of Trial: 1 Aug 1839
Trial Year: 1839
Location of Trial: Breconshire, Wales
Sentence: Acquittal

Also tried at the same hearing:

Isaac Price age 9 & William Jones age 14, all tried for manslaughter, proved NOT guilty



Marie, why is that newspaper article dated 1873 when the case was 1839?

Edited my spelling ;-)

Gins - because my fingers got confused when they were typing. It should, of course, say 1839.

PS - it was an article.

Many thanks MC :-) I have been able to get your message now. I am selling my house at mo and things getting in the way of FH !!!!!!!!
Happy Easter to all.
Sallyx

A BIG thank you to all who helped with the info,
MC AND GINS, thanks for taking the trouble to send bits from the case.
I have been ill over Easter - Great !!!!! but have ordered the death cert for poor Benjamin, think it may make very sad reading.
I wonder if any mention would be made about his funeral in the paper.
Sally x :-)

Sally


you could try contacting the Local Study Centre, or local library, where Benjamin was killed and ask if they have any newspapers of the period that carry any articles.


Give them the time period ......

...say 2 weeks from the date of the death

then 2 weeks from the date of the coroner's inquest

and 2 weeks from the date of the trial(s)


I had fantastic success getting the newspaper report of my gt grandfather's death ....... and the Local Study Centre did not charge for anything, even the cost of airmail.




sylvia

Just for info it looks like Leah/Lena was his second wife

Breconshire Wales Marriages

Date 12th November 1830
Name Moses Powell
Spouse Lena Jenkins
Location Llanfihangel Nant Bran
License or Banns - by banns
Comments - groom Defynog widower

For info could be his firsdt marriage

Moses Powell born 1783 of Llanidor'Fan Brecfon married Mary Morgans 08/04/1808 in Llanidor'Fan.

Hello Sylvia and Joan,
Many thanks for info.
Yes the two marriages are correct for Moses, but thanks so much for taking the time to send info.
I will contact the local library.
Regards
Sally :-)

Hi all,
Just to say the post has been and i have the death cert for Benjamin.
There is NO cause of death, could this be because of the violet nature of the death??? Never seen a death cert - cause before.
Regards
Sally

Ive seen lots but never had one where the cause of death is blank?

Is there nothing in that column at all? When was the death certificate issued please


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