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Hi Folks,
I have the marriage certificate of John George Dean and Elizabeth Simmons. Says he was born in London / age 30 years / Baker /Parents:
John Dean (Baker) and Elizabeth Brown. If that is correct he was born about 1826.
(1st child bith cert age is 34 in 1857 and born Luton, Bedfordshire and Elizabeth aged 19 years) What are the real ages?????
Elizabeth Simmons born Newbury, Berkshire / age 17 years / Spinster / Parents: John Simmons (Blacksmith) and Rachel Sargent.
Interesting to note that John Simmons signed as a witness. Back to the drawing board for immigration?????
Elaine

So the death in 1904 isn't him :-(

Still not convinced about the marriage to Tryphena....ages are wrong (if the ages are right if you get my drift).

The parents match the tree on A though it's pretty sparse going back - seems to concentrate on Barnstable

Hi Jude,
Its very hard when the ages are conflicting. The death in 1904, what a shame it does not fit. We still do not know, how, when or where he died. Alfred Barnstable his first child, and as you say going back very sparse. He married a Mary Fitzroy no birth date at the moment for her, marriage certificate parents unknown as on her death certificate. Maybe a foundling??? Her death certificate has her born in Fitzroy ? where her surname maybe came to being.
Thanks Jude

Hi Jude,
I have found a couple of death dates. Looking at Cupcakes reply for little Maud Marion saying daughter of George and Tryphena Dean. The two dates are for a George Dean death 1900 (NSW BDM) mother Elizabeth in Ryde NSW and George Dean death 1901 (NSW BDM) parents John and Elizabeth in Molong. A possibility. Lots to persue.
Elaine

Thankyou Helen have pm'd you.

A very special thanks to Sylvia, Jude, Helen, Valerie, Chris for your help.

Elaine