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Can anyone help me? im trying to find information regarding my great grandma Alice Walsh, She was born in 1894 dont know where, I know she married my great grandad Bernard Manus in 1924 the marriage certificate says Alice Forsyth Hayes Welsh and not Walsh (printing mistake i pressume) also says she was 27 and this would mean she was born in 1897 but think she may have told a white lie about her age as her death was in 1967 and says she was 73 when she died. No fathers name on the certificate . On the birth certicates of her 2 sons, mothers maiden name is walsh and on one of the certificates it says her full name as alice forsyth hayes walsh, im wondering why she would have those names as i would of thought they were surnames? Can anyone help me as im now stuck my grandad only knows she had a brother that died on a battleship when it was hit by a german torpedo, think it was world war one,I have looked it up but dont know his first name and cant match the ones i did find to living with alice in the census records when they were younger. she also had a brother who hurt his hand or cut it off in a printing machine at work, again dont know when or his first name but know it was printed in a newspaper article. Please help me with any advise or suggestions you can give me thank you so much in advance

Marriages Jun 1924 (>99%) (Reference)
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Manus Bernard Welsh Chorlton 8c 1948
Welsh Alice F H Manus Chorlton 8c 1948

Chris :)

Thanks Chris, yeah i have the marriage certificate im just stuck on Alice dont know where she was born or her fathers name just needed a few suggestions as to what i can do next.

There is a birth for an Alice F Walsh in 1891 in West Derby, Lancashire, have you tried the census to try and find her

Chris

Who were the witnesses on the marriage certificate

Chris

Yeah lots of alice's on the census records in 1901 and 1911 just cant place her to a family as i dont know any of her siblings or her parents names or where she was born im pretty sure she was born in 1894 so its narrowed down to around 9 familys, this is exhausting lol

A couple called Chew, never heard of them mentioned in the family

I can only find one birth of an Alice F Walsh when checking All Counties and that's the one in 1891, no oither initials.

Chris

Thanks for your help, I have the same results and its so hard when you hit a brick wall! Im gonna have to search the news paper archives and see if i can find the brother who hurt his hand

Ive just checked the alice in 1891 and the middle name is florence so this rules her out anyway!

1911 17,Collins St Hulme lancs.
Annie walsh head widow 1860
Alice daughter 1895 born Chorlton
James 1886
William 1888 PRINTERS Compositor.(Could he be the one who severed his hand)

Maryb.

Im wondering if she added those names after her birth, like it might have been her mothers maiden name or something, Forsyth Hayes sound to me like two different surnames!

Thanks Mary, looks like you may have found something cheers will check it out now thanks again

For Ref

Is this the family in 1891

Name: Annie Walsh
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Walsh
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3222
Folio: 100
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
William Walsh 35
Annie Walsh 31
Anna Walsh 10
Ellen Walsh 8
James Walsh 5
William Walsh 3

Looks like same family in 1881

Name: William Walsh
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Walsh
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Hulme
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 22 Olive St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Hydraulic Packer

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3930
Folio: 16
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
William Walsh 25
Annie Walsh 21
Hannah Walsh (looks like 10 mths - Sorry eyes not so good ;-)

William is a Hydraulic Packer on the 1891 also

1901

WALSH, Annie Head Widow F 41 1860 Bookbinder Folder Sewer
Manchester
Lancashire
WALSH, Hannah Daughter Single F 20 1881 Printers Feeder
Manchester
Lancashire
WALSH, Ellen Daughter Single F 18 1883 Bookbinder Folder Sewer
Manchester
Lancashire
WALSH, James Son Single M 15 1886 Office Boy
Manchester
Lancashire
WALSH, William Son Single M 13 1888 Glass Beveller
Manchester
Lancashire
WALSH, Alice Daughter Single F 6 1895
Manchester
Lancashire
Piece:
3700 Folio:
116 Page:
25 Registration District:
Chorlton
Civil Parish:
South Manchester Municipal Borough:
Address:
2, Hibbert Street, South Manchester County:
Lancashire

(wonders if James was the brother killed, if family fits!)...

Chris :)

William in 1871 ?

Both parents born Ireland.

William is a warehouse boy

Name: William Walsh
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Walsh
Mother's Name: Hannah Walsh
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Hulme
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Household schedule number: 172
Piece: 4002
Folio: 83
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
James Walsh 37
Hannah Walsh 37
William Walsh 15
Elizabeth Walsh 14
Catherine Walsh 12
Mary Walsh 10
Sarah Walsh 8
Alice Walsh 6
Thomas Walsh 4
Hannah Walsh 2
Emile Walsh 3 Months

Possible Marriage


Marriages Sep 1879
DOLPHIN Joseph Chorlton 8c 958
>>>Farrell Annie Chorlton 8c 958
RODWELL Harriet Ann Chorlton 8c 958
>>>WALSH William Chorlton 8c 958

Williams Death?

Deaths Jun 1899
Walsh William 43 Chorlton 8c 434