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Thanks for the update, much appreciated.

Should my theory prove to be correct (From evidence provided by the marriage certificate) this should prove her fathers details:

1901:

Name: Hilda Richardson
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel Richardson
Mother's name: Mary Richardson
Gender: Female
Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: St Helen
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
Town: St Helen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 50
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 341
Piece: 3527
Folio: 61
Page Number: 62
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Richardson 30 born Skelmersdale, Lancashire. Occ: Coal hewer
Mary Richardson 28 born Skelmersdale, Lancashire
Lydia Richardson 8
Margaret Richardson 7
Rachel Richardson 4
Hilda Richardson 2
John Roper 47
William Hulme 43

Nice one, Jonesey.......missed that!

Time for refreshment!

I agree marriage certificate will give father's name and that's what I need to do, thanks all for the information. :-)

Flick,

Here it is, I added it to my post just after you had posted.

Deaths Dec 1931 (>99%)
Webster Joseph 34 Prescot 8b 858

The marriage cert will have her father's name on it.............if she knew who he was.

That will be her maiden name.

Sorry, June, but we can't conjure up answers, much as we'd like to. We work on facts

Jonesey

Couldn't see a death for the husband of that marriage.........I suppose divorce was possible, but.................

If she married in St Helens in 1935 and died in St Helens in 1976 then it is reasonable to assume that any children she had during her 2nd marriage would most likely to have been born in St Helens.

You say that you think that her 2nd Marriage might have produced 2 children. Since if she was born in 1898 then it is reasonable to assume that her childbearing days would be over by 1950 at the latest.

Amongst the Wilde births registered in St Helens 1935~1950 only 2 had the same mothers maiden name, Wilde.

P.S. Without her 1935 marriage certificate how do you know that this was her 2nd marriage and not her first or even her 3rd or 4th?

P.S. My money is on this combination:

Births Sep 1898 (>99%)
RICHARDSON Hilda Prescot 8b 781

Marriages Mar 1923 (>99%)
Richardson Hilda Webster Prescot 8b 911
Webster Joseph Richardson Prescot 8b 911

Deaths Dec 1931 (>99%)
Webster Joseph 34 Prescot 8b 858

Possible Wilde/Richardson child birth registered in St Helens in 1938.

I bought the marriage certificate for Harry's 2nd marriage and his wife's maiden name on that was her 1st married name, her husband died in ww1 so the marriage certificate may not give me the answer unfortunately

As advised above, to find her maiden name, buy her marriage cert

It simply is not possible to look for children of either of her marriages without knowing her maiden name.

Yes this is her death

Is this her death?

Name: Hilda Wilde
Birth Date: 17 Aug 1898
Date of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1976
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: St Helens
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 37
Page: 0231

N.B. Without knowing her maiden name it is extremely unlikely that you will ever discover whether any children she had (If she had any) were the product of her union of either of her marriages. As has already been said you need to purchase her marriage certificate to Harry Wilde to discover her maiden name.

I don't know what her maiden name was as Webster was her name from her first marriage, I did wonder if they were 2 children from her first marriage but not sure how I would find this information ?

In that case, you must buy the marriage cert, to find out what Hilda's maiden name was.

Births are recorded with the MMN........not the name she used when re-marrying

And a tip - if you don't mind.

When asking for help, give all the data you have - it saves a lot of searching for the wrong records

And don't always believe what you are told - people get things wrong

Presumably since the 1935 marriage was her second Webster was her formerly married name, not her maiden name.

What was Hilda's maiden name?

This was Harry's 3rd marriage and Hilda's 2nd marriage, I only know from an elderly relative living in Australia that harry had 2 more children sometime after 1934 but I've never been able to find them

Reggie - I was meaning that 'Wirral' was a lot closer to St. Helen's than Sheffield ! :-D ;-)

Anyway, I really don't think that any of those births belong to Harry + Hilda ??

Are you certain that there were 2 births June?

What else do you know about these people please?

Dea x

How do Harry & Hilda fit into your tree?

Was Webster Hilda's maiden name?

The Wirral is in Cheshire

St Helens was Lancashire in those days........now Merseyside

Created: 1.7.1935 (out of Prescot registration district).
Sub-districts : St. Helens, St. Helens First, St. Helens North, St. Helens Second, St. Helens South.
GRO volumes : 8b (1935–46), 10F (1946–74).
Registers now held by : St. Helens

Two were born in Wirrall and two in Sheffield.

There are 2 births in 1938 - one in each area so there are obviously 2 'couples'!

Your Harry and Hilda were married in St. Helens which is in the right sort of area for the Wirrall births so I would say that those are the 2 which you want.

However, nothing is certain without the proof of the birth cert!

Dea x

P.S. - Be aware that there was another Wilde/Webster marriage in 1936 in Wirrall which again is where these children were registered so I think these births 'probably'' belong to that other couple !!!!!

I do NOT think that they are the ones you are looking for!

Dea x

Could anyone please explain how I can confirm above ?