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Unbelievable. That ranks along the lines of if it doesn't exist, make it up.

I am not a programmer but surely if that particular field (Age at death) in the GR software was designated as one that can be void if no figure shown in the index then the problem of inaccurate or misleading information being generated would be avoided.

Another simple remedy would be to program in that if the year of death field is less than 1866 (The year that age at death first appeared in the index) then the problem would also be avoided.

It might also not be a bad idea to ensure that if you ask someone to write a computer program concerning genealogy that you first ensure that they have a full working knowledge of the subject they are to write the program for.

I just thought that I would post the reply from GR regarding my question to them about ages being listed on their death records


Dear Gins

Thank you for your email,

When there is no age at death recorded at the time it is shown as 0 years as we still have a field for it but no information to enter.

Please just ignore this.
Kind Regards,


Alex Brett
Genes Reunited Support Team


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Im sending that record I posted to GR and asking them why they have given the age of death as 0yrs when that info is not available

It might save others from being misled

I think is was about 1866 when approx ages were added to the registration

They need to get that sorted, imagine how many other people have spent money and then even worse, dismissed an entry and ended up face to face with a brick wall they are never going to breakdown

:-| :-| :-| :-| :-|

I can only agree with Dea and Gins.

Reported age at death did not appear in the index until the late 1860's. GR or whoever's records GR uses have obviously introduced defective software that assumes that if no age is shown in the index then it assumes that the deceased died before they were one year old.

Thank you Gins and Dea ,your help is much appreciated. x

Im not suprised youre confused Julie!

No you are not doing anything wrong, GR listing the age of death and I dont know how they would know that if the GRO dont?

The information that GR have listed is very misleading to say the least and it puts up brickwalls for people, who rule out what is indeed the correct death

I'll send you a link that you will find useful

I think GR records are misleading you Julie.

The record entries for that time do not show age at death - It looks to me as if GR are just routinely putting in a '0' if there is no age shown !!!

Thiis is VERY poor and VERY misleading.

As Gins says, you should also not pay credits to look at Birth Marriage or death records as they are FREE to see on FreeBMD site up until around the 1940's !

It does look to me that those death records found are the correct ones as the people who have them on their trees on the other site do have the actual date of death !

Dea x

Well i`m a bit confused now !!!!! i`ve only just started doing this ...i have been taking it that if it says 0 years old then the record was to do with a baby.
I`m i reading the death records wrong ?

GRs listing for the above death that we posted

Death Record Name Charles Wraight
Year of Registration 1858
Quarter of Registration Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Romney Marsh
Registration County Kent
Age at Death: 0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Volume Number 2A
Volume Page 479


Now do they list it as 0yrs for all the deaths that are registered before the years that the age was added

It has to be wrong, there is no birth to match the death age that GR have listed and I have seen a couple of trees on Ancestry (same family) with the death years that we have posted, plus the actual date of death, suggesting that the tree owner has the certificate

Either that is very misleading, or Im nuts (dont answer that!) And they charged 5 credits to view it, when its free to see it on Freebmd :-0

I dont think deaths of that time period give you the age at death, they do later

There is no birth for Charles Wraight or Sarah that would match him being 0yr at the time of the death record I posted

Are you saying you can see the age of death on GR? Can you post the record please

On here if you look at a death record it says their age when they died .

Thanks Allotment for infor and Liverbird ,as i had not found George .

I was interested to know where it gives the age on the death?

Name: George Wraight
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son-in-Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Cranbrook, Kent, England
Civil parish: Cranbrook
Ecclesiastical parish: Sissinghurst
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Cranbrook
Sub-registration district: Cranbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 101
Piece: 507
Folio: 95
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Euphemia Wraight 39>>>>>>widow, born Scotland
George Wraight 16
Alfred Wraight 15>>>>>>>>>S.I.L
Catherine Ely Wraight 9>>>>>>dau
William Wraight 4>>>>>>>>>son
Hope Wraight 1>>>>>>>>>dau

Death for Charles is also given as 0

??

1861 England Census
about James Wraight Name: James Wraight
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Faversham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Faversham
Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Faversham
Sub-registration district: Faversham
Household Members: Name Age
John Noble 37
Ann Noble 37
George Noble 14
James Dean 39
James Wraight 15

Name: Thomas Wraight
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Foots Cray, Kent, England
Civil parish: Cranbrook
Town: Cranbrook
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Cranbrook
Sub-registration district: Cranbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 214
Piece: 507
Folio: 17
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age

Frances Wraight 48
Alfred Jenner 25
Samuel Parks 11
Thomas Wraight 11


Different household

Samuel Sweatman 35
Sarah Sweatman 35
Traten Sweatman 14
Marten Sweatman 6
Alma Sweatman 4
Mary Ann Sweatman 2

That death for Sarah says it was 0 years old ..so not her

Sorry forgot about dates but yes that is them Gins.

AAAhhh haa !!! - There is a Foots Cray also in Kent !!! so the above must be the one we are following ;-) :-D