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Ginny and team cracked my previous post august 29th 2010 to find Elizabeth's birth and parents.
Thanks to them again.
I went on to trace back several generations, residences and occupations. Elizabeth is my deceased wife's grandmother and I have been trying to find what happened to her after 1936 without success to date.
My wifes sister tells me that Elizabeth(her grandmother also) moved from 38 Byegrove road Colliers wood London;shown on her son's marriage certificate, to an adjoining street Boundary road.A Joseph Spencer(cinema projectionist) is also shown on Joseph Restall Spencers marriage certificate.He may be Elizabeth's husband?. Elizabeth was born a Spencer.
Elizabeth's son Joseph Restall Spencer moved to 48 Boundary road Colliers wood, at marriage, with wife Florence Mears;this was also the address of Florence's parents.
Ihave checked with the local library and Merton records centre who can find no record of Elizabeth at Byegrove road or Boundary;indicating that during WW2 some records were lost.
My wife's sister(born 1945) remembers her gran living opposite them in Boundary road and thinks she may have gone to a local. hospital,long term, and perhaps may have died there.
I have obtained death certificates for 3 Elizabeth Spencers all wrong;ME Surrey 1954,SE Surrey 1954,Lambeth 1960.Can anyone help please. Peter.

What year was she born please?

Elizabet Biddy Spencer was born in 1883 Battersea

you should take off the answered tick as other helpers will think her death has been found so wont look further . :-D

have removed answered tick. Thank you

how near to Colliers Wood is Tottenham ?? was wondering about this one

Edmonton covered Tottenham Wood Green etc
Name: Elizabeth Spencer
Birth Date: abt 1882
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1947
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5e
Page: 228


there doesn't seem to one for an Elizabeth B Spencer

seems to be about 15 plus miles so could be feasable

or if that one too early maybe this one
Name: Elizabeth Spencer
Birth Date: abt 1882
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1959
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5e
Page: 107

distances about 12 miles apart

wrong second initial but ??
Name: Elizabeth L Spencer
Birth Date: abt 1884
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1952
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5a
Page: 452

There is a big main Hospital at Barnet


Mabe the L stands for Libby rather than Biddy !!

It would seem to be a costly exercise buying certs hoping to find the right lady

Thanks Shirley.You're right it can be expesive at £10 a certificate.I have already bought 3 wrong ones.Tottenham and Ealing are north of the Thames, I think.
I am not sure where Barnet is.
I feel she was possibly in a hospital in the Colliers wood, Tooting area;south of the Thames and as her relatives also lived south of the Thames. Is it possible to check on records of patients names resident in hospitals There was maybe still is a hospital in the Tooting area called Springfield or Saint Georges;would it be possible for me to find if there was an Elizabeth there

I have never been successful in finding hospital records ! lots would have been destroyed especially if hospitals merged

\\\\isnt Colliers Wood north of the Thames??

No it is south of the Thames. Colliers wood is south of Tooting and north of Merton,very close to South Wimbledon

Hi Peter

I cant remember that far back! Is this her birth

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Elizabeth Biddy Crisp
Name: Elizabeth Biddy Crisp
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1883
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 107

I guess she could have died somewhere else other than London?


Deaths Dec 1938
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Spencer Elizabeth B 54 Ashby Z. 7a 119

Found it

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1237770

Hi Ginns or Ginny as you were called in 2010.As you have found my original post from 2010.All the stuff you generated then, enabled me to trace Elizabeth Biddy Spencers family/ancesters back for several generations. I am now hoping to complete the puzzle by locating her final resting place.
Having already bought 3 incorrect death certificates for possible Elizabeths from the area around Colliers wood ne surrey even Lambeth I do not want to sample more on the off chance. My wife's sister born in 1945 says she remembers Elizabeth living opposite them in Boundary road Colliers wood and seems to think some tragedy befell Elizabeth which resulted in her going into a hospital ,possibly permenently.If I could examine the names of patients in nearby long stay hospitals i would be one step nearer.
Earlier when tracing Elizabeths grand father I found him in a Kingston hospital/workhouse but cannot remember how I did it.
There was a large hospital for the infirm at Tooting called Springfield,how could I make contact with them?

Thats the downside of this kind of research, it costs!

I had a relative born and lived in NY....couldnt find a death and put it down to the fact that US records are hit and miss, depending on the state that you are researching..........found him in the end.....died in the UK!

If Elizabeth was sick, she may have gone far and wide to an appropriate hospital, might be worth a shot at the death I posted

You wont get hosptial listings from anywhere, Ive been down that route before and was told by the authorities that records are destroyed after a certain period........thats two of mine that got away :-(

AHH yes I can see by the maps that its south of the Thames . I am not familiar with that area. I did Google though for mileage from Colliers Wood to the reg areas for deaths I found and these are correct so she could have died in one .or none! ,of the areas Barnet had a big main hospital which could be a possibility , depends how much how you want to keep buying certs though.