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Yes Patchem, I did make that point when I posted 1891............

kaylee

Go somewhere quiet, and get it all down on a chart.........then you won't continually irritate people by asking for the same info over and over again

We love to help......but YOU have to co-operate, and try to help yourself

In the end, it's your tree, your family.................................

Kaylee


The reason we ask you to keep to the one thread ....... and the reason why GR says one should not post more than one thread on a family ........ is to stop all thew work that has ALREADY BEEN DONE, BEING DUPLICATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN!


capitals deliberate!



This work has been done



so much duplication just wastes the time of the helpers ................... and makes for more confusion.



I obviously wasted hours just a couple fo days ago finding information.


Now the people on this thread have wasted their time finding it all over again.



IT HAS ALL BEEN FOUND BEFORE!




sylvia

Flick,
You are repeating work from elsewhere.................

This is the marriage of the chap on 1891 census

Name: Archibald Rolston
Birth Year: abt 1875
Age: 35
Marriage Date: 1 Jul 1910
Parish: Liverpool St Matthias
Spouse's Name: Louisa Clarkson
Father's Name: Archibald James Rolston - Lithographic Printer
Spouse Father's Name: James Sinnott
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And........1911 census

Name: Archibald Roulston
Age in 1911: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Kirkdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 94 Arlington Street
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Sailor On Drillship
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: Kirkdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Piece: 22469
Household Members: Name Age
Archibald Roulston 37
Louisa Roulston 38
William Samuel Roulston 5
John Roulston 3
Richard Roulston 7

Births Dec 1871 (>99%)
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Rolston Archibald James Liverpool 8b 53

1871 makes interesting reading

Name: Richard Miller
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Rolston
Mother's name: Mary H Rolston
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 34
Piece: 3755
Folio: 59
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
James Rolston 38 b. Londonderry, IRELAND
Mary H Rolston 38
Mary H Miller 11
Susanna Miller 8
John Miller 5
Elizabeth Miller 4
Richard Miller 2

It's extremely unlikely that Mary was married to Rolston.......she married as Miller in1878

Please buy some certificates and so when you put in a request you will have facts to back what you are trying to find out.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1290961

Please STOP trying to get people to go over ground covered in your other threads.

You have been told that the only way to find out about Hannah is to purchase her birth cert.

Catherine has also been discussed at length on your other threads......

These are perfect illustrations of why GR make the 'one thread, one topic', rule

it amazes me how quick you got all that information up as its took me all day to get the same info

When you say widow ALLEGEDLY could she have lied as the only records i have found is of a Samuel died in stockport 1915??

Mary had previously married 3 times and i cant find death records for any of her husbands, we are all messing saying she was a husband killer haha

If she is a widow in 1891 then when did samuel die??

We just dont know where Catherine Torrintine comes into it,

Is it possible Mary Miller then torrinetine, could she have changed her name??

And where does Hannah Doris harris fit in???

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1878
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TORRENTINE Samuel MILLER Mary A West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_WD/68/126

Just for INFO.........1891 ......and I don't doubt it's on the other threads, but I don't plan on cross-referring all the time


Name: Thomas Hambleton
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret A Hambleton
Gender: Male
Where born: Alston Field, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: South Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2945
Folio: 99
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Hambleton 40
Margaret A Hambleton 35
Richard Hambleton 11
Sine Hambleton 7
Emma Hambleton 1
Mary Forrinetive 54 M I L***********************WIDOW (allegedly)
Richard Miller 22 B I L
Elizabeth J Miller 23 S I L
Archibald Roulston 21 B I L
Oliver Roulston 17 B I L...born IRELAND
Saint Walworth 59

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about Thomas Hambleton
Name: Thomas Hambleton
Birth Year: abt 1851
Age: 28
Marriage Date: 29 Dec 1879
Parish: Everton St Peter
Spouse's Name: Margaret Ann Millar
Father's Name: Abraham Hambleton
Spouse Father's Name: Richard Millar

Mary Ann Ellen Torrentine
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 29 Jan 1849 St. Barnabas' Church,? Liverpool,? Lancashire,? England
residence: Liverpool,? Lancashire,? England
parents: William Torrentine,? Mary Ann


name: Mary Ann Ellen Torrentine
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 29 Jan 1849
baptism/christening place: St. Barnabas' Church, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
father's name: William Torrentine
mother's name: Mary Ann
indexing project (batch) number: I00540-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 2147909

Another small point......in the time-scale in question, Cumbria didn't exist..........it was Cumberland.

But I don't think that's relevant, as all your research centres on Liverpool

Did Samuel perhaps marry again?

Marriages Mar 1901 (>99%)
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FALLON Charlotte Liverpool 8b 222
McLOUGHLIN Patrick Liverpool 8b 222
Parsons Sarah Liverpool 8b 222
Torrentine Samuel Liverpool 8b 222

You must check freebmd for marriages etc to back up your thinking

For example, you can check whether Margaret who married Hambleton was actually Elizabeth's sister by finding the marriage.............

You really do need to start using freebmd.........it's not a difficult site to use, and you will get such a lot out of finding info for yourself..........

???

Samuel Torrentine
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 06 Nov 1842 St. Peters,? Liverpool,? Lancashire,? England
residence: Liverpool,? Lancashire,? England
parents: William Torrentine,? Mary Ann


name: Samuel Torrentine
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 06 Nov 1842
baptism/christening place: St. Peters, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
father's name: William Torrentine
mother's name: Mary Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C01411-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1656424

I see you have that surname spelled 3 different ways. Torrinetine, Torrentine and Torrintine. Have you seen the 3 spellings on records? I can't see a death of Catherine on FreeBMD.

Dont know what area you are looking at but is this him?
Name: Samuel Torrentine
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1915
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Stockport
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 14

Yes but i have to keep the threads seperate so i dont get myself confussed, i'm not no expert like yourselfs. Im a beginner =(

so it makes it easier.

Also am not after the info thats on the previous threads am now after Torrentines, not Hindley or Miller Just Torrintine/Torrentine

Where i have put presume i am only going by the records

Thanks kaylee

This is surely connected to your previous threads.............

Try looking for info on.................

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Don't 'presume' anything.......