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Rachel

Rachel Report 30 Jan 2012 20:32

H there, im looking for a marriage between Isaiah Abbott b1855 and Lucetta (maiden name unknown) b1867 from Yorkshire. They have 4 children that i can find on the census but im not sure where i find the marriage.

Im quite new to this so even if someone can point me in the right direction, id be grateful.

Thanks
Rachel

Gee

Gee Report 30 Jan 2012 20:38

Marriages Dec 1886 (>99%)
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ABBOTT Isaiah Wakefield 9c 50 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Blackburn Joe Wakefield 9c 50
JONES Lucetta Wakefield 9c 50 <<<<<<<<<
LODGE Louisa Wakefield 9c 50

You can search here for free



http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Jan 2012 20:38

Possible. This was found on http://www.freebmd.org.uk which is a free site for birth, death and marriage records.

Marriages Dec 1886 (>99%)
>>ABBOTT Isaiah Wakefield 9c 50 Scan available - click to view
Blackburn Joe Wakefield 9c 50 Scan available - click to view
>>JONES Lucetta Wakefield 9c 50 Scan available - click to view
LODGE Louisa Wakefield 9c 50

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 30 Jan 2012 20:38

Possible?

Marriages Dec 1886 (>99%)
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ABBOTT Isaiah Wakefield 9c 50
JONES Lucetta Wakefield 9c 50

Rachel

Rachel Report 30 Jan 2012 20:39

Thankyou!! an i ask where you got this from?

Mike *

Mike * Report 30 Jan 2012 20:43

1881


Lucetta JONES Other U Female 14 Hemsworth, York, England Inmate (Dom Sev)
)

Institution "Female Industrial Home"
Census Place Wakefield, York, England

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Jan 2012 20:44

http://www.freebmd.org.uk which is a free site for birth's, death's and marriages.

You won't get far without it!

:-)

Rachel

Rachel Report 30 Jan 2012 20:46

Thankyou Holly.

MIke, what is that info you have got? Does that mean she was in a home for some time or worked there?

Thanks

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Jan 2012 20:48

More on the marriage:

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1922

Name: Lucetta Jones, spinster - a domestic servant
Birth Year: abt 1867
Age: 19
Marriage or Bann Date: 25 Dec 1886
Parish: Stanley
Father's Name: David Jones - Miner
Spouse's Name: Isaiah Abbott, age 28 - a bachelor. Miner.
Spouse's Father's Name: Abraham Abbott - Miner

Address for both was Ferry Lane.

Witnesses: David Rhodes and Eliza Jennings.

Rachel

Rachel Report 30 Jan 2012 20:56

Wow thankyou Marie. Where do you find this out so i dont need to pester you guys haha! x

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Jan 2012 20:56

1871 for the family,

JONES, David Head M 28 1843 coalminer Sedgely Shropshire VIEW
JONES, Elizebeth Wife F 27 1844 All Gean?, Sedgley Shropshire VIEW
JONES, Lourette Daughter F 3 1868 All Gean? Shropshire VIEW
JONES, Harriet Daughter F 0 1871 Pontepool? Monmouthshire VIEW
Piece:
2967 Folio:
75 Page:
28 Registration District:
Walsall

Civil Parish:
Walsall Wood Municipal Borough:
Address:
Clayhanger, Walsall Wood County:
Staffordshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Jan 2012 20:57

According to trees on ancestry this is her birth:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Lucetta Jones
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1867
Registration district: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 97

According to the 1911 census she was born Bilston, Staffs.

Rachel

Rachel Report 30 Jan 2012 21:02

Alviegal, do you think that they have mispelt Lucetta's name as lourette in the census you have posted the info from?

Thankyou all again x

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Jan 2012 21:05

Yes Rachel, you'll find a lot of names get misspelt. That's half the fun of this hobby, trying to work out some elusive ancestor that has been transcribed wrongly!

Liz

Rachel

Rachel Report 30 Jan 2012 21:07

Haha thanks!

How do you find the deaths then? do you just keep searching their name and dob in free bmd and see what it throws up?

Mike *

Mike * Report 30 Jan 2012 21:10

Rachel the info I posted for Lucetta aged 14 is where she was living on the1881 census.

It has her birthplace as Hemsworth Yorkshire so not sure the birth found in Staffordshire is her.

It could be that was the only Lucetta Jones birth found so it was assumed to be right.

Never take info from someone's tree.
If they have it wrong then you end up following the wrong line.

It could be that Lucetta or Louretta wasn't born Jones but assumed her stepfather's name.

First step is to buy her marriage certificate from the General Registry Office. (£9.25) quoting the reference numbers given on freebmd.

LINK:
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

You can order online at
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Gee

Gee Report 30 Jan 2012 21:10

Hi Rachel

I ref where I got the marriage from on the first post here, that site is free to search from 1837 up to about 1955

To have access to all records you need to pay a sub to:

Ancestry

Find My Past

There is another free site here

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/igi/search_igi.asp

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Jan 2012 21:11

Freebmd is still being transcribed so if there is anything you can't find, let us know and we will do our best to help.
Most of us subscribe to ancestry or findmypast and can find records on them. Other people may have access to different records so it's always worth asking if you're stuck.

Rachel

Rachel Report 30 Jan 2012 21:16

Thankyou all.

Mike i understand what you are saying but surely this from Marie shows that what i had was correct. Youve got me wondering how easy it is to pick up the wrong info now!!

'MarieCeleste Report Mark this as answered 30 Jan 2012 20:48
More on the marriage:

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1922

Name: Lucetta Jones, spinster - a domestic servant
Birth Year: abt 1867
Age: 19
Marriage or Bann Date: 25 Dec 1886
Parish: Stanley
Father's Name: David Jones - Miner
Spouse's Name: Isaiah Abbott, age 28 - a bachelor. Miner.
Spouse's Father's Name: Abraham Abbott - Miner

Address for both was Ferry Lane.

Witnesses: David Rhodes and Eliza Jennings.'

:-) :-) :-)

Mike *

Mike * Report 30 Jan 2012 21:49

Not saying any info is wrong.
Just that you should check it out for yourself.

There appears to be some confusion over Lucetta's birthplace ( Hemsworth Yorkshire, Sedgley Shropshire, Dudley Staffordshire. )

You could do with knowing if father David was recorded as deceased on Lucetta's marriage certificate.

If not, he should be on the 1881 census.
If deceased you may be looking for Elizabeth as a Widow.


Also sister Harriet's birth cert would confirm the parents, and once you have a maiden name for Elizabeth you could find a marriage, which may or may not have been before Lucetta was born.