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Where's William and the children ? UPDATE 16 Jan

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Margaret

Margaret Report 16 Jan 2012 10:44

Morning 'allotment and Nicky down south. Have just been studying your last responses and I agree that the death COULD well be the right one. William's age varies on census returns ie 8 on '51, 18 on '61, 28 on '71, 39 on '81, and 46 on '91. So for him to have died in 1897, his age is not far out. Have noted this. Also the William Chandler living alone age 26 looks good, particularly as he is a general labourer and shows as a pavior for local council on 1911 (original image).

Once again I have researched this family further and further back and AGAIN they have done a disappearing act - on 1841 this time. The last siting I have got (1851 census)s William Chandler (yes, William again! ) age 37 born Devizes, Wiltshire, wife Mary 45 b Devizes, son George 15 b Devizes and another William, son age 8. Needless to say neither William, Mary or George are showing their faces on 1841. So frustrating. This family is driving me insane !!!

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 15 Jan 2012 22:27

Deaths Jun 1897 (>99%)
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Chandler William Thomas 60 Paddington 1a 7



Nicky

Margaret

Margaret Report 15 Jan 2012 22:24

Thanks everyone - I'll keep looking but I think this one is a no-go !!!!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Jan 2012 21:49

Yes, that is the one that Andrew posted Nicky. :-)

Edit: Ooops, we cross posted!!

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 15 Jan 2012 21:47

Heres William Roberts wife Kate in 1901..

DAVIS, Annie Head Widow F 55 1846 Own Means
Woolwich
Kent London VIEW
DAVIS, Theodora Daughter Single F 28 1873 Musician Singer
Notting Hill VIEW
CHANDLER, Kate Servant Married F 28 1873 Domestic
Peterboro
Huntingdonshire VIEW
STOPFORD, Alma E Servant Single F 13 1888 Nurse
Westbourne Park VIEW
CHANDLER, Kate J E Single F 1 1900
Paddington VIEW

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Piece:
10 Folio:
13 Page:
17 Registration District:
Paddington

Civil Parish:
Paddington Municipal Borough:
Address:
37, St Lukes Road, Paddington County:
London

EDIT..Sorry just realised you have this already, its her husband you are looking for.

Nicky

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Jan 2012 21:33

I think the 1901 census Andrew posted is your Kate Chandler....wife of William Robert......Which ties in with the 1911 census..........


I did try and find William Robert Chandler and his Mother Jessie in the 1901 census Margaret.........but unfortunately, i had no luck finding them either!! :-S

Margaret

Margaret Report 15 Jan 2012 21:26

Evening everyone - I am still searching for this family on 1901 census and make the silly mistake of starting a new thread asking for assistance. However, I was advised to continue on this thread. So, I will try again. Since this original thread I have tried everything I can think of. I have tried just William Robert - no surname - and place/date birth. No luck, did the same but with just Chandler. Again no luck. Then I tried both William and Jessie CHANDER. nothing. I then turned to Jessie and did the same. Jessie(no surname), date/place birth - nothing. Kate the mother with small daughter I can account for as she is in service, but I am at a loss now as to what else I can do or what other surname variations I could use. Has anyone any ideas or should I just accept that maybe they really have been missed off the census altogther ? Thanks for reading this.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Jan 2012 12:42

Ahhh!! Now that gives me the name of the child missing from the 1911 census...


1911 census - household transcription
Person: CHANDLER, Kate Jessie Elizabeth
Institution: Convent Of St Mary Of Nazareth Home For Incurables


CHANDLER, Kate Jessie Elizabeth Patient F 11 1900 VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7098 Reference:
RG14PN7098 RD130 SD2 ED1 SN170

Registration District:
Hendon Sub District:
Edgware Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Edgware

Address:
St Mary of Nazareth Edgware MX County:
Middlesex

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Jan 2012 12:35

Kate in 1901?

1901 England Census
about Kate Chandler
Name: Kate Chandler
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Peterboro

Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Tavistock Road
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Paddington
Sub-registration district: St Mary, Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Piece: 10
Folio: 13
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Danie Davis 55
Theodora Davis 28
Kate Chandler 28
Alma E Stafford 13
Kate J E Chander 1


Andy

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Jan 2012 12:12

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Jessie Chandler
Name: Jessie Chandler
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1914
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Paddington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 75


I can't for the life of me find William his wife Kate and Jessie in 1901!! :-|

Margaret

Margaret Report 13 Jan 2012 12:07

Thank you very much everyone for your enrmous help. I have now managed to find the Chandlers on 1871, 1861 and 1851 census returns so with your help I have made great progress. I am busy noting down everything on this thread for future use. Thanks again

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Jan 2012 12:04

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about William Robert Chandler
Name: William Robert Chandler
Spouse Name: Kate King
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 19 Mar 1899
Parish: Paddington St Luke
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Register

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Jan 2012 12:02

1911 census - household transcription
Person: CHANDLER, William Robert
Address: 35 Woodfield Road Harrow Road W


CHANDLER, William Robert Head Married M 38 1873 Wood Parlor Paddington VIEW
CHANDLER, Kate Wife Married
12 years F 38 1873 Peterborough VIEW
CHANDLER, William John Son F 9 1902 Paddington VIEW
CHANDLER, George C B Son M 3 1908 Paddington VIEW (Middle initials...E B)
CHANDLER, Robert Bruce Son M 1 1910 Paddington VIEW
CHANDLER, Jessie Mother Widow F 69 1842 Scotland VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
42 Reference:
RG14PN42 RG78PN2 RD1 SD2 ED2 SN53

Registration District:
Paddington Sub District:
Paddington Central Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Paddington

Address:
35 Woodfield Road Harrow Road W County:
London
(4 children born and living)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Jan 2012 11:36

??

1911 census - household transcription
Person: CHANDLER, George Henry
Address: 78 Marne St Queens Park Paddington

CHANDLER, George Henry Head Married M 37 1874 House Decorator Paddington London VIEW
CHANDLER, Catherine Wife Married
11 years F 36 1875 Paddington London VIEW
CHANDLER, George Mark Son M 10 1901 School Kensington London VIEW
CHANDLER, William Arthur Son M 8 1903 School Paddington London VIEW
CHANDLER, Sydney Alexander Son M 6 1905 School Paddington London VIEW
CHANDLER, Edith Jessie Daughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Paddington Londonon VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7 Reference:
RG14PN7 RG78PN1 RD1 SD1 ED7 SN278

Registration District:
Paddington Sub District:
Paddington North Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Paddington

Address:
78 Marne St Queens Park Paddington County:
London
(4 children born and living)


??

1901 England Census about George H Chandler
Name: George H Chandler
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine Chandler
Gender: Male
Where born: Paddington, London, England

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew and St Phillip
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 64
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 160
Piece: 30
Folio: 107
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
George H Chandler 27
Catherine Chandler 26
George M Chandler 4 Months



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about George Henry Chandler
Name: George Henry Chandler
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Spouse Name: Catherine Osborne
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Apr 1899
Parish: Paddington St Peter
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: William Thomas Chandler
Spouse Father Name: Obediah Osborne
Register Type: Parish Register

Margaret

Margaret Report 13 Jan 2012 11:27

Thank you everyone - I am very grateful. I can try again on 1901 now. Much appreciated.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Jan 2012 11:26

I have submitted a correction for the 1881 census.

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Jan 2012 11:22

1881 England Census
about William Chander
Name: William Chander
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William T. Chander
Mother's Name: Jessie Chander
Gender: Male
Where born: London Marylebone, London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Paddington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 2 Barnsdale Rd
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 10
Folio: 37
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
William T. Chander 39
Jessie Chander 40
William Chander 9
George Chander 7


Andy

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Jan 2012 11:21

1881 England Census about Jessie Chander
Name: Jessie Chander
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William T. Chander
Gender: Female
Where born: Dundee, Fife, Scotland

Civil parish: Paddington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 2 Barnsdale Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 10
Folio: 37
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
William T. Chander 39 (Master Harnissmaker) Devizes Wiltshire
Jessie Chander 40
William Chander 9
George Chander 7

Margaret

Margaret Report 13 Jan 2012 11:20

Update - I have found William/Jessie on 1871 census but this time William's place of birth says Paddington not Devizes !!! Also, just below their entry on the results sheet of Ancestry for 1871 there is another Jessie Chandler married to an Andrew whose year of birth would appear to match more accurately to the Jessie in prison ! So the search goes on for the family in 1881 - I will try Chandler without the l. Thank you

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Jan 2012 11:16

For reference....

1891 England Census about Jessie Chandler
Name: Jessie Chandler
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William T Chandler
Gender: Female
Where born: Dundee, Scotland

Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Paddington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 7
Folio: 112
Page Number: 54
Household Members:
Name Age
William T Chandler 46 (Harness Maker) Devizes Wiltshire
Jessie Chandler 50
William Chandler 19 Paddington
George Chandler 17 Paddington
Eliza Crafts 53 (Mother) Widow.....Ely Cambridgeshire