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First thread I've read this morning. Just wanted to say brilliant sleuthing as usual!!!

Maureen :-D

Thank you for all your help it is much appreciated

Jenny

Thanks Chris.

Looks like it all ties in nicely for Jenny.......... I'm sure she'll be pleased.

Dee x

Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 7
Month: Jul
Year: 1814
Son/Daughter: Son
Forename: Henry Richard Dore
Surname: Bacon
First Parent: Henry
Second Parent: Dinah
Parish: Lymington
County: Hampshire

(also the Marriage of Henry and Dinah, but same as yours above, Dove!)

Chris :)

Brilliant work Chris!!

Can you see a baptism for Henry??

Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 15

Month: Mar

Year: 1812

Son/Daughter: Daughter

Forename: Fanny Maria

Surname: Bacon

First Parent: Henry

Second Parent: Dinah
Notes:
Parish: Lymington
County: Hampshire
Record source: Hampshire Baptisms
Data provider: Hampshire Genealogical Society

Chris :)

Now Henry born 1815 was Henry Richard when he died, he also had a son in 1849 named Henry Richard.......... so I wonder if his father was Henry Richard? Also the marriage I posted earlier shows Henry marrying Dinah DoVe......... could someone have mistaked the "V" for a "R" or vice versa???

This is Henry's probate record;

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941
about Henry Richard Bacon Name: Henry Richard Bacon
Probate Date: 18 Jan 1871
Death Date: 16 Dec 1863
Death Place: Southampton, England
Registry: Winchester

His address confirms that this is definately him....... I thought his middle name maybe of interest as you thought Richard was his father.

Henry was a Master mariner.

Looks like young Fanny's birth reg;

Births Sep 1847 (>99%)
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Bacon Fanny Maria Southampton 7 178


Looks like she was named after her Aunt.

This is going on th fact that Henry names his father as Henry and also tha name Dinah;

Groom's Name: Henry Bacon
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Dinah Dove
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 03 Feb 1809
Marriage Place: St. Mary, Southampton, Hampshire, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01692-8
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1041727
Reference Number: p. 120 rn 354

So we can safely say that Henry was Fanny's brother;

1851 England Census
about Dinah Cox Name: Dinah Cox
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Cox
Mother's Name: Fanny Cox
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Beaulieu, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Beaulieu
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: New Forest
Sub-registration district: Lyndhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Piece: 1668
Folio: 169
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Cox 41
Fanny Cox 37
Albert Cox 15
Henry Cox 13
Dinah Cox 2
George Cox 3 Mo
William Prior 27
Thomas Porter 43

1871 England Census
about Bernard C Bacon Name: Bernard C Bacon
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary Bacon
Gender: Male
Where born: Southampton, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Southampton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Southampton
Sub-registration district: Southampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Household schedule number: 74
Piece: 1191
Folio: 31
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Bacon 49
Henry Bacon 22
Bernard C Bacon 11
William J Bacon 9
Margeret E Bacon 6
Dinah Cox 22 >>> Niece

Just wondered if this could be fanny's brother;

1861 England Census
about Henry Bacon Name: Henry Bacon
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Bacon
Gender: Male
Where born: Lymington, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Southampton St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Southampton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Southampton
Sub-registration district: Southampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Piece: 676
Folio: 11
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Bacon 46
Mary Bacon 39
Fanny Bacon 13 <<<<<<<<<
Henry Bacon 12
James Bacon 9
Albert Bacon 7
Bernard Bacon 1


Their marriage;

Groom's Name: Henry Bacon
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Mary Hervey
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 25 Aug 1846
Marriage Place: Southampton, Hampshire, England
Groom's Father's Name: Henry Bacon
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: John Cronch
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Widowed
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M02063-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1041728
Reference Number: Pg 169 No 338

Hi Jenny


From familysearch .... these records are taken from the actual Paris Records.

The marriage to Richard is before bmd registration ....... and the Parish register does not show the names of the fathers.

It could be worth asking your local LDS office to bring in the microfiche for you though ..... sometimes the vicar made notes in the margins!


England Marriages, 1538–1973 for Fanny Maria Bacon

Groom's Name: Richard Chiverton
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Fanny Maria Bacon
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 08 Oct 1832
Marriage Place: St. Mary, Southampton, Hampshire, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01692-8
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1041727
Reference Number: p4 rn 11



sylvia

No I have not the marriage certif for Fanny on either marriage this was my last opption beford I paid for them Sorry

I presume you do not have the marriage cert


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Marriages Jun 1846 (>99%)
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Absalom Henry Portsea I 7 251
Chiverton Fanny Maria Portsea I 7 251
Cox Thomas Portsea I. 7 251
Haggis Elizabeth Sarah Portsea I 7 251
Royal John Joseph Portsea I 7 251
Senneck Sophia Portsea I 7 251
Thornton Samuel Portsea I 7 251
West Caroline Portsea I 7 251