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Joseph Brearley c1840 appears on the 1861 census (n.b. census spelling Briarley) with wife Elizabeth c 1839 living in Stocksbridge. there are also two other Brearley's named who are not their children. Jonathan c1828 and William c1848

I am trying to decipher what the 'Relationship to head of family' column says in relation to these two. - my eyesight isn't what it used to be.

The following information may have some relevance. Joseph and Elizabeth Brearley marry in March Q 1860 in Huddersfield. Her name before marriage is also Brearley. (kissing cousins ?)

Another Branch of the Brearley family I am researching have a John Brearley c1801 and Wife Martha c1811 on the 1841 census with son Jonathan c1831 and daughter Elizabeth c1836.

On the 1851 census John now c 1798 and Martha now c 1808 still have a daughter Elizabeth c1835 and also now a son William c1848. Jonathan c1828 is now resident with brother James in Netherthong.(Huddersfield area)

I have not yet been able to establish a family link between husband and wife Joseph and Elizabeth, but I think the Elizabeth Jonathan and William who appear with Joseph on the 1861 census are siblings.

Thanks for any help or insights

Old Yorkshire Blike

What has the transcriber taken the relationships to be?

Name: Joseph Brearley
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Brearley
Gender: Male
Where born: Penistone, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Bradfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Ecclesfield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Wortley
Sub-registration district: Bradfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Piece: 3461
Folio: 98
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Brearley 22
Elizabeth Brearley 23
Jonathan Brearley 33
William Brearley 13
Wilson Haigh 21
Smith Hey 22

Both Jonathan and William have been transcribed as Brother in Law....which doesn't make sense.......

I'll just check the image..............

Image says brother in law......perhaps the wife gave the info to the enumerator?

Her name before marriage is also Brearley.

So they could be her brothers, making them Joseph's brothers in law.


Marriages Mar 1860 (>99%)
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Brearley Elizabeth Huddersfield 9a 381
Brearley Joseph Huddersfield 9a 381
Burhouse Sidney Huddersfield 9a 381
Lees Sarah Ann Huddersfield 9a 381

One of 7 baptisms on the same day for children of John & Martha

Name: William Brearley
Birth Date: abt 1850
Parish: Penistone, St John The Baptist
Baptism Date: 1 Jan 1850
Father's Name: John Brearley
Mother's name: Martha Brearley

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Name: Joseph Brearley
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Brearley
Gender: Male
Where born: Penistone, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Bradfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Ecclesfield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Wortley
Sub-registration district: Bradfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Piece: 3461
Folio: 98
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Brearley 22
Elizabeth Brearley 23 Wife
Jonathan Brearley 33 Brother-in-law
William Brearley 13 Brother-in-law
Wilson Haigh 21 Lodger
Smith Hey 22 Lodger

Interesting, Mike*

I hadn't considered that possibility, in view of the less-than-common surname............

EDIT:

Neither had I read the info in the post..............too much of it to take in at one go.

OYB

If in doubt, always look at what the transcriber has deduced........

Posted wrote :
"Her name before marriage is also Brearley. (kissing cousins ?)"

so I don't understand the confusion

FMP transcription for William says son in law
nothing for Jonathan


Brother in law would make sense but with th hand writing on the census Iwould be gussing

I have explained...............

I'm not sure why OYB was confused.............the info is given by the transcriber, and he has the relevant facts about the family.

1861

mistranscribed......
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BEARLEY, Joseph Head Married M 22 1839 Steel Roller
Penistone
Yorkshire VIEW
BEARLEY, Elizabeth Wife Married F 23 1838
Penistone
Yorkshire VIEW
BEARLEY, Jonathan ... Married M 33 1828 Labourer At Wire Works Steel
Penistone
Yorkshire VIEW
BEARLEY, William Son In Law Unmarried M 13 1848 Steel Hardware
Penistone
Yorkshire VIEW

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Piece:
3461 Folio:
98 Page:
8 Registration District:
Wortley

Civil Parish:
Bradfield Municipal Borough:
Address:
Stocksbridge, Bradfield County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

it looks like bro in law on image for both


regards vera

Look at the transcribed info..................as advised

My thoughts are are Elizabeth Brearley is the daughter of John and Martha Brearley of Holmfirth. I think she may have knocked off a couple or so years off her age. On the 1871 and 1891 census it clearly says that her place of birth is Holmfirth, whilst on others it says Penistone. She has named two of her children John and Martha, not proof but a possible clue. Whilst Brierley and Brearly are not too popular a name, it is possible that the two were not related as there are quite a few in the neighbouring area with both spellings.-jl

Not sure whether you have the detail of John Brearley of Holmfirth but if not I have found details of a John Brierley born 2nd Dec 1798 baptised at Lane Congregational Chapel Holmfirth on 9th Dec 1798 father John Brierley and mother Hannah - abode Netherthong. There is another entry with parents of the same names for a Jabez Brierley in 1797 with the abode of Oldfield which is near Honley Huddersfield. If this is the right baptism for the John Brearley of Netherthong it might help you establish the original family and the location from where they originate.-jl

1841
William Brearley 30 Clothier
Elizabeth 25
Robert 5
Joseph 2
Mark
Living in Thurlstone - Penistone
1851
William Brearley 43- Thurlstone
Elizabeth 37
Robert Dawson 15
Joseph 12
Mark 10
George 5
Sarah 3
Frederick 6 month
All the family are born Thurlstone Penistone
Still nothing to suggest that Joseph and Elizabeth are related.