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Hi everyone ,

Your response has been fantastic I know that Alfred Hyde married Mary Gould and they had 8 children of which my dad was one of them.

I am still trying to find out where Alfred was a Domestic Butler he was butler when he was married . In the 1901 Census he was living at 30 Glenthorne Road but was a butler somewhere else. Can anybody tell me how to find out where.

Regards Denise
1.1.2012

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL



:-)

missed that - sorry!!

Could this be the right Henry [Alfred] in 1861? I've kinda lost my confidence now! :-(

Census 1861

HYDE, Thomas Head Married M 40 1821 Builders Lab Chigwell Essex
HYDE, Ann Wife Married F 40 1821 Barking Essex
HYDE, William Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Builders Lab Chigwell Essex
HYDE, Mary J Daughter F 13 1848 Scholar Chigwell Essex
>>>HYDE, Henry Son M 10 1851 Scholar Chigwell Essex
HYDE, Ann Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar Chigwell Essex
HYDE, Luke Son M 6 1855 Chigwell Essex
HYDE, Harriott S Daughter F 3 1858 Chigwell Essex
HYDE, Charles Son M 0 (4M) 1861 Chigwell Essex

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Piece:
1063 Folio:
47 Page:
23 Registration District:
Epping

Civil Parish:
Chigwell Municipal Borough:

Address:
20, Horn Lane, Chigwell County:
Essex

HI Ann, I'd already posted Henry Alfred and Mary Ann as probable parents for Alfred.

Guess great minds think alike!

Don't get misled like I did with Sarah and John (as Henry's parents) :-)

Oops, looks like John and Sarah were wrong as parents for Henry Alfred, as according to census 1861 their son was Henry William.

Will leave in place for elimination.

Census 1861

Name: John Hyde
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Hyde
Gender: Male
Where born: Chigwell, Essex, England

Civil parish: Chigwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Chigwell Row
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Epping
Sub-registration district: Chigwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Piece: 1063
Folio: 20
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
John Hyde 42
Sarah Hyde 39
Mary Ann Hyde 13
>>>>William Henry Hyde 10
Harriet Emma Hyde 8
Sarah Maria Hyde 6
James Hyde 3
Jonathan Allin Hyde 1
Mary Smith 63
Sarah Smith 37

name: Henry A Hyde
event: Census
event date: 02 Apr 1871
gender: Male
age: 20
relationship to head of household: Self
birthplace: Chigwell, Essex
record type: Household
registration district: Epping
sub-district: Chigwell
event parish: Chigwell
county: Essex

spouse: Mary A Hyde
children: Alfred Hyde,? George Hyde...


name: Henry A Hyde
age: 31
gender: Male
birth year: 1850
birthplace: Chigwell, Essex, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Agr Lab
address: 3 Fence Piece
census place: Chigwell, Essex, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341418
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 1735 / 96
page number: 18

parents: Henry A Hyde,? Mary A Hyde


name: Alfred Hyde
age: 9
gender: Male
birth year: 1872
birthplace: Chigwell, Essex, England
relationship to head of household: Son
marital condition: Single
address: 3 Fence Piece
census place: Chigwell, Essex, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341418
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 1735 / 96
page number: 18

Alfred Harry Hyde
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Chigwell,? Essex
census: 1911 Woodford,? Woodford,? Essex,? England


name: Alfred Harry Hyde
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 39
birthplace: Chigwell, Essex
record type: Household
registration district: West Ham
sub-district: Walthamstow
parish: Woodford
county: Essex

Alfred H Hyde
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1873 Chigwell,? Essex
census: 31 Mar 1901 Hammersmith,? London,? Middlesex,? England


name: Alfred H Hyde
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 28
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Chigwell, Essex
record type: Household
registration district: Fulham
sub-district: South Hammersmith
ecclesiastical parish: St Johns
civil parish: Hammersmith
county: London, Middlesex

oops - just noticed the amended opening post :-S

I have sent a message to poster

Marriage for John Hyde and Sarah????

Name: John Hyde - occ GARDENER
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Spouse Name: Sarah Willis
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 Mar 1844
Parish: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Jonathan Hyde - occ labourer
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Willis -occ labourer
Register Type: Parish Register

Bride and groom both of John St.

Henry Hyde with parents in census 1851?

EDIT: Now looks like WRONG family in light of census 1861 further down the thread.

HYDE, John Head Married M 32 1819 Gardener Chigwell Essex
HYDE, Sarah Wife Married F 29 1822 Barking Essex
HYDE, Mary Daughter F 3 1848 Chigwell Essex
>>>>HYDE, Henry Son M 0 (9 MOS) 1851 Chigwell Essex

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Piece:
1770 Folio:
50 Page:
27 Registration District:
Epping

Civil Parish:
Chigwell Municipal Borough:

Address:
Vicarage Lane, Chigwell County:
Essex

Possible marriage for Alfred's parents?

Marriages Dec 1871
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HYDE Henry Alfred Epping 4a 113
Yorke Mary Ann Epping 4a 113

Guess you need birth cert of one of the children to work out which Mary he married:

Marriages Mar 1897
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Barclay John William St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 679
DAVIS Mary St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 679
GOULD Mary St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 679
Hyde Alfred Harry St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 679

Alfred with parents in census 1881? has sister Winifred, the invalid who was living with Alfred and family in 1911.

HYDE, Henry A Head Married M 31 1850 Agr Lab Chigwell Essex
HYDE, Mary A Wife Married F 36 1845 Swimbridge Devon
>>>>HYDE, Alfred Son Single M 9 1872 Chigwell Essex
HYDE, George Son Single M 7 1874 Chigwell Essex
>>>HYDE, Winifred Daughter Single F 4 1877 Chigwell Essex
HYDE, Leonard Son Single M 2 1879 Chigwell Essex
HYDE, Constance Daughter Single F 0 1881 Chigwell Essex

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Piece:
1735 Folio:
96 Page:
18 Registration District:
Epping

Civil Parish:
Chigwell Municipal Borough:

Address:
3, Fence Piece, Chigwell County:
Essex

1911, again, doesn't say where he worked:

6 children born, 5 living, 1 deceased.

HYDE, Alfred Harry Head Married M 39 1872 House Steward Chigwell Essex
HYDE, Mary Wife Married 14 years F 34 1877 Morcombelake Essex
HYDE, Winifred Emma Sister Single F 34 1877 None Invalid Chigwell Essex
HYDE, Alfred George Son M 12 1899 Hammersmith London CO
HYDE, Percival John Son M 10 1901 Hammersmith London CO
HYDE, Geoffrey William Son M 5 1906 Penge Surrey
HYDE, Dorothy Winiffred Daughter F 2 1909 Hayes Middlesex
HYDE, Henry Ernest Son M 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Woodford Essex

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9761 Reference:
RG14PN9761 RG78PN514B RD188 SD10 ED87 SN154

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Walthamstow Enumeration District:
87 Parish:
Woodford

Address:
107 Prospect Road Woodford County:
Essex



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Census 1901 - doesn't say where he worked:


HYDE, Alfred H Head Married M 28 1873 Dom Butler Chigwell
Essex
HYDE, Mary Wife Married F 24 1877 Morcombelake Dorsetshire
HYDE, Alfred G Son Single M 2 1899 Hammerth London
HYDE, Percival J Son Single M 0 (4 MOS) 1901 Hammerth London
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Piece:
46 Folio:
124 Page:
2 Registration District:
Fulham

Civil Parish:
Hammersmith Municipal Borough:

Address:
30, Glenthorne Road, Hammersmith County:
London



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welcome to the boards Denise

As Patchem says, give us more details and we'd love to help - this might be Reginald

name: Reginald Hyde
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 6
birthplace: Woodford, Essex
record type: Household
registration district: Romford
sub-district: Ilford
parish: Ilford
county: Essex

It is unlikely that anyone with a connection with Woodford Green and Hyde will see this posting in the next few days.
Have you looked for Hydes of Woodford Green in peoples' trees (Eric and Brian have Reginald and Fred)?
Do you want to give us a few details for some more specific help?