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Just to update all you willing helpers..........

The 1896 marriage certificate of Henry SKERRETT to Ada FELTON arrived this morning.
They married in Smethwick and Henry is shown as 24, a gardener, son of George Henry SKERRETT, a gardener, so it looks very much as if Henry is the one registered William Henry in Kidderminster.

Thank you for your help with this.


.................... so now to sort out Lavinia.........

Gwyn

Sorry - I am a bit 'behind' as I have little grand-daughter here, staying overnight.

I will look into it more as soon as I can.

Dea x

Lavinia may have been living with him and using the name Hossack and so they gave this name to their child?

It is of course pure guesswork but worth a little explore, I think?

Dea x

Just what I was wondering patchem.

....or overseas perhaps?

I have also looked for Lavinas marrying Skerretts, just in case this accounts for either of the marriages.
No luck there............

Gwyn

We also cannot find births for 2 Lavinia Skerrett's, so more questions than answers.
Do you think the Hossack family went back to Scotland as I could not see any obvious deaths?

Dea and patchem....
Thanks so much for sticking with this.

Some of my SKERRETTs did move to the south Wales valleys, so this is an interesting find.
I will have to look further into this one.

Thank you

Still doesn't solve where the Lavinia who married in 1896 was hiding in 1901, but it's great to have you on board to find possible other clues.

Many thanks.

Gwyn

If the daughter was born as Hossack then is it from a previous marriage, so they would not have to lie about the length of their marriage, which was why I suggested the Skerrett birth.
But, I agree, I was mixing up birth years and ages for Nellie.

Still looking for her on 1901!

Dea x

I thought this may be the daughter:

Births Dec 1903
Hossack Lydia Ellen Pontypridd 11a 643

Nellie being short for Ellen ?????

Dea x

This looks like the birth of the daughter:
Births Jun 1906
Skerrett Lavinia Ella Pontypridd 11a 647

I had ruled out that 1911 as ages seemed too far out, and marriage also. (I do not expect people to lie, I suppose)

But if she only married in 1908 we still have not got her in 1901.

This one continues to 'puzzle' me:

I found the following marriage:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Lavinia Skerrett
Name: Lavinia Skerrett
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1908
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 778

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These are the 4 people on the page and I have found the first couple on 1911 census:

Eliza Fanny Francis Jul-Aug-Sep 1908 Cardiff Glamorganshire
Herman August A Haltenhof Jul-Aug-Sep 1908 Cardiff Glamorganshire


Robert Hossack Jul-Aug-Sep 1908 Cardiff Glamorganshire ***

Lavinia Skerrett Jul-Aug-Sep 1908 Cardiff Glamorganshire ***


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This looks like Robert and Lavinia on 1911 - they say though that they have been married for 10 years and not 3
but I suspect that is because they have a daughter aged 7 ?

HOSSACK, Robert Head Married 10 years M 29 1882 Colliery Sawyer Aboveground Fortrose Ross Shrie Scotland VIEW
HOSSACK, Vennie Wife Married F 28 1883 Kidderminster Worcestershire VIEW
HOSSACK, Nellie Daughter F 7 1904 Gelli Rhondda VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
32357 Reference:
RG14PN32357 RG78PN1853A RD589 SD4 ED29 SN89

Registration District:
Pontypridd Sub District:
Rhondda Enumeration District:
29 Parish:
Rhondda

Address:
148 Ystrad Road Ystrad Rhondda County:
Glamorganshire

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Her age is also out by quite a bit but as Robert would have been so much younger than her,
perhaps she knocked a few years off - NOT unknown.!!

I know that there are many things that don't fit here but I cannot see another birth for a Lavinia
at all and this one does say she was born in Kidderminster!

Also, I cannot see another marriage for Robert Hossack!

What do you think?

Dea x

Thank you... that might be the only way to solve this.
I too wondered if he died early.

First I might try looking for any Kidderminster-born Lavinias of the right age in 1911 and see if I can work out any marriages for any found there.
I don't have full access, but should be able to search names OK.

Thanks again.

Gwyn

I wondered if Alfred Thomas Phillips died (quickly) and she married again before 1901. Or she died and is mis-transcribed.
If that initial marriage in 1896 is correct then she could be living anywhere in the country. Is it worth getting the certificate - just to rule them out if necessary?

Thanks for sticking with this patchem.... That looks a good match.

I appreciate your help.

Gwyn

Just to show we are still looking, here is 1891 for her:
1891 England Census
Lavinia Skerrett Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Servant Gender: Female
Where born: Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Kings Norton Ecclesiastical parish: Moseley
Town: Moseley County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England Registration district: Kings Norton Sub-registration district: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 2351 Folio: 7 Page Number: 8
Ernest Belfield 12 son
Percy Belfield 8
Margaret Belfield 19
Harriet Cave 27
xxx Lavinia Skerrett 17
Ethel Shingler 18
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2351; Folio 7; Page 8; GSU roll: 6097461.

Sorry for the late reply.

Thank you for looking GB.

I still haven't found Lavinia in 1901 to see where she was born.

Gwyn

Unfortunately that marriage is not on Ancestry to confirm name of father

Not at the moment finding any births/baptisms for London either

Now searching for Lavinia in 1901..
Is this her perhaps?

Marriages Jun 1896
Evans Pierce Jones .. Holborn 1b 1359
JONES Annie ..Holborn 1b 1359
Phillips Alfred Thomas ..Holborn 1b 1359
Skerrett Lavinia ..Holborn 1b 1359

I have found the other pair, so think Lavinia married Alfred.

My lost Lavinia was born c 1873 in Kidderminster, Worcestershire.


I can't find her so would appreciate help please.

Gwyn

Choccy and Joseph added while I was typing.... Thank you.

This is looking like a firm link, as it suggests George was the one I have baptised in Ullingswick, Herefordshire in 1847.

This SKERRETT group radiates out far and wide from that small village.

Thank you for your help to make yet another link

Gwyn

Marriages Jun 1868 (>99%)
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NORWOOD Mary Ann Kidderminster 6c 283
Skerrett George Kidderminster 6c 283



possibly -

1851

NARWOOD, Edward Head Widower M 62 1789 Coal Miner
Gt Wetley
Worcestershire VIEW
NARWOOD, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 22 1829 Miner Daur
Gt Wetley
Worcestershire VIEW
>>>>>NARWOOD, Mary Ann Grand Daughter F 2 1849
Gt Wetley
Worcestershire VIEW

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Piece:
2041 Folio:
135 Page:
3 Registration District:
Martley

Civil Parish:
Great Witley Municipal Borough:
Address:
Great Witley County:
Worcestershire