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Hi there,

I made a post about this family recently but couldn't find it. So, this is a new post so not sure that is important.

My ancestor Isaac Pattison (aged 68) and a tinner married Ann Gordon (aged 58) in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire on 28 Feb. 1881. Both parties were widowed.

I am trying to find more about Ann Gordon; she was the daughter of Edward Burnside (Deceased) a potter, and was born in Guisborough, Yorkshire according to the 1881 census.

I trying to find out more about Ann before she married Isaac Pattison in 1881, and also more about her father Edward Burnside as another twist in the tale shows I am distantly related to a branch called BURNSIDE(s).

Also, Isaac is described as the son of George Pattison, a tinner (Deceased) and I am wanting to find a baptism for him. There is nothing on the IGI. Can anyone else spot him? He was born in Scotland.

Thank you,

Peter

1881
Name: Isaac Pattison
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Pattison
Gender: Male
Where born: Paisley, Scotland

Civil parish: Middlesbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 16 Union Cottages
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Tinner

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4846
Folio: 85
Page Number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
Isaac Pattison 68
Ann Pattison 64
Hannah Gosling 30
Annie Gosling 8

From Paisley

1861


name: Isaac Pattison
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 45
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Scotland
record type: Household
registration district: Stockton
sub-district: 1 Yarm
civil parish: Middlesbrough
county: Durham

1861 Ancestry
Name: Isaac Pattison
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Pattison
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Middlesbrough
Town: Middlesbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Yarm
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Piece: 3685
Folio: 12
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Isaac Pattison 45
Ann Pattison 45
James Pattison 20 -c1841 Yorkshire
Isaac Pattison 18 -1843 Hartlipool
John Pattison 15 -c1843 Stockton
William Pattison 7
Thomas Pattison 5 -1856 Knottingley
Robert Pattison 1
Ann Pattison 17
Jane Pattison 13
Sarah Pattison 11

Thank you - that is much appreciated, but I already have a lot of info on Isaac from the census.

Thank you again for this help.

1851
Name: David Pattinson
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Isaac Pattinson
Mother's Name: Ann Pattinson
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Monkwearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Monk
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 134
Piece: 2398
Folio: 88
Page Number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Isaac Pattinson 34
Ann Pattinson 34
David Pattinson 11
James Pattinson 7
Isaac Pattinson 6
Ann Pattinson 5
John Pattinson 4
Jane Pattinson 2

This is a possible marriage:

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Husband

ALEXANDER GORDON Pedigree

Birth:
Christening:
Marriage: 02 MAY 1842 Sedgefield, Durham, England
Death:
Burial:



Wife

ANN BARNSIDES Pedigree

Birth:
Christening:
Marriage: 02 MAY 1842 Sedgefield, Durham, England
Death:
Burial:



Children
None

1841
Name: David Patteson
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Birstall
Hundred: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Liversedge
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1291
Book: 6
Folio: 50
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
George Patterson 30 -c1811 Scotland-Bro?-Tinner
Betty Patterson 40
Iasaac Patterson 25
Ann Patterson 25
Bella Patteson 15
Rachel Patteson 15
Esther Patteson 7
William Patteson 5
Marget Patteson 3
Elizabeth Patteson 4
David Patteson 1
Marget Patteson 1 MO

?parents: Thomas Patison,? Elizabeth Dunlop


name: George Patison
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 07 Nov 1813
baptism/christening place: , ABBEY (PAISLEY), RENFREW, SCOTLAND
birth date: 26 Oct 1813
father's name: Thomas Patison
mother's name: Elizabeth Dunlop
indexing project (batch) number: C11958-2
system origin: Scotland-VR
source film number: 1041088

????

1841 census

Person: BURNSIDE, Edward
Address: Heighington Street, North Side, Aycliffe, Aycliffe, Great

Name Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

BURNSIDE, Edward M 35 1806 Durham
BURNSIDE, Elizebeth F 35 1806 Durham
BURNSIDE, Christiana F 15 1826 Durham
BURNSIDE, Mary F 10 1831 Durham
BURNSIDE, James M 8 1833 Durham
BURNSIDE, Frances M 6 1835 Durham
BURNSIDE, Ann F 3 1838 Durham
BURNSIDE, Ambrous M 0 (3 months) 1841 Durham
Piece:
303 Book/Folio:
10/6 Page:
6 Registration District:
Darlington

Civil Parish:
Aycliffe Municipal Borough:
Address:
Heighington Street, North Side, Aycliffe, Aycliffe, Great County:
Durham


This is the only Edward Burnside showing, only used his name on the search details.

Chris

There's this family in 1851,

Person: BURNSIDES, Edward
Address: Old Meeting House Yard, Guisborough

1851 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

BURNSIDES, Edward Head Married M 50 1801 Licensed Hawker
Yackley
Durham
BURNSIDES, Sarah Wife Married F 47 1804
Bradford
Yorkshire
BURNSIDES, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834
Guisborough
Yorkshire
BURNSIDES, Benjamin Son Unmarried M 15 1836
Guisborough
Yorkshire
BURNSIDES, John Son M 12 1839
Guisborough
Yorkshire
BURNSIDES, Sarah Daughter F 10 1841
Guisborough
Yorkshire
BURNSIDES, Isabella Daughter F 7 1844
Guisborough
Yorkshire
BURNSIDES, Joseph Son M 3 1848
Guisborough
Yorkshire
Piece:
2375 Folio:
294 Page:
13 Registration District:
Guisbrough

Civil Parish:
Guisborough Municipal Borough:
Address:
Old Meeting House Yard, Guisborough County:
Yorkshire (North riding)


Chris

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=EUROPE
England, Diocese of Durham Bishops' Transcripts ca., 1700-1900 - Durham - Aycliffe - 1762-1877 - Image 308 of 514
[1841 bp] March 16th [Entry] No 1347; Ambrose Son of: Edward and Elizabeth[(sic)]; Burnside; Aycliffe; Labourer; J.D.Eadie Vicar

Pity, as sometimes there's more info in Durham registers.

Out of sheer curiosity, I did an advanced search on here with keyword Isaac, and author Peter.............18 threads came up.

Could one of those be the one you're looking for?

Probably Flick - but all for different aspects of a wider family in there context! There are at least five in my tree, all who had children, so you can see how this develops and causes confusion.

Anyway, thank you all for this help! Much appreciated.

I wondered whether the granddaughter Annie Gosling shown in 1881 age 8 would be Isaac or Ann's granddaughter. I cannot find Gosling to Pattison marriages (I did not check for alternative spellings, however); there is a possible marriage for Gosling to Gordon in 1868. The spouse is either Mary Warren or Hannah Gordon. The marriage is registered in Stockport, in the June quarter of 1868, so perhaps the Gordon family were on the other side of the Pennines for a while?

Going back to the 1842 marriage that you have posted, it does seem very likely, since there is this Gordon family with links to Burnside(s) and Guisborough in 1851, and the age of the eldest child fitting with a marriage in 1842:

Name: Alexander Gordon
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Gordon
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England

Civil parish: Trimdon
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 2384
Folio: 581
Page Number: 1

Household Members:
Alexander Gordon 24 (age 16 when eldest child born? - image says age 26), a tinner
Ann Gordon 25 b Sadberge, Durham (this is near Darlington)
Ann Gordon 8 b Gisbro
Margret Gordon 5 b Auckland
Isabella Gordon 3 b Hull
Dinia Gordon 1 b Darlington (possible match to Hannah in 1881?)
Abraham Burnsides 22 (brother in law)
- so Mr Gordon did travel around a fair amount

That 1851 entry is a reasonable match to the following family in 1861:

Name: Ann Gordon
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Ellock Gordon
Gender: Female
Where born: Sudbury

Civil parish: Durham St Giles
Town: Durham
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 11

Household schedule number: 224
Piece: 3741
Folio: 109
Page Number: 46

Household Members:

Ellock Gordon 38 (tinner and brazier)
Ann Gordon 38
Ann Gordon 18
Margaret Gordon 16
Dinah Gordon 10

The transcription from the image is fine, which suggests that the enumerator for this 1861 census was trying to decipher the householder's writing.

- and again in 1871, which fits for a death of Alexander Gordon in 1874 in Sculcoates age 49:

Name: Alexander Gordon
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Gordon
Gender: Male
Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England
Civil parish: Sculcoates St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: East Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 4782
Folio: 114
Page Number: 11

Household Members:

Alexander Gordon 48 Tin plate worker
Ann Gordon 48 b Sud Bury nr Darlington

Thank you Ivy - will look into this! Must dash now but much appreciated!