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17 Dec 2011 22:49 |
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Thank you Ivy - will look into this! Must dash now but much appreciated!
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17 Dec 2011 11:05 |
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- and again in 1871, which fits for a death of Alexander Gordon in 1874 in Sculcoates age 49:
Name: Alexander Gordon Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gordon Gender: Male Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England Civil parish: Sculcoates St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Sculcoates Sub-registration district: East Sculcoates ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 42 Piece: 4782 Folio: 114 Page Number: 11
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Alexander Gordon 48 Tin plate worker Ann Gordon 48 b Sud Bury nr Darlington
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17 Dec 2011 10:52 |
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That 1851 entry is a reasonable match to the following family in 1861:
Name: Ann Gordon Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Ellock Gordon Gender: Female Where born: Sudbury Civil parish: Durham St Giles Town: Durham County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Durham Sub-registration district: St Nicholas ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 224 Piece: 3741 Folio: 109 Page Number: 46
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Ellock Gordon 38 (tinner and brazier) Ann Gordon 38 Ann Gordon 18 Margaret Gordon 16 Dinah Gordon 10
The transcription from the image is fine, which suggests that the enumerator for this 1861 census was trying to decipher the householder's writing.
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Ivy
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17 Dec 2011 09:33 |
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Going back to the 1842 marriage that you have posted, it does seem very likely, since there is this Gordon family with links to Burnside(s) and Guisborough in 1851, and the age of the eldest child fitting with a marriage in 1842:
Name: Alexander Gordon Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gordon Gender: M (Male) Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England Civil parish: Trimdon County/Island: Durham Country: England
Registration district: Stockton Sub-registration district: Hartlepool ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Piece: 2384 Folio: 581 Page Number: 1
Household Members: Alexander Gordon 24 (age 16 when eldest child born? - image says age 26), a tinner Ann Gordon 25 b Sadberge, Durham (this is near Darlington) Ann Gordon 8 b Gisbro Margret Gordon 5 b Auckland Isabella Gordon 3 b Hull Dinia Gordon 1 b Darlington (possible match to Hannah in 1881?) Abraham Burnsides 22 (brother in law) - so Mr Gordon did travel around a fair amount
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17 Dec 2011 08:12 |
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I wondered whether the granddaughter Annie Gosling shown in 1881 age 8 would be Isaac or Ann's granddaughter. I cannot find Gosling to Pattison marriages (I did not check for alternative spellings, however); there is a possible marriage for Gosling to Gordon in 1868. The spouse is either Mary Warren or Hannah Gordon. The marriage is registered in Stockport, in the June quarter of 1868, so perhaps the Gordon family were on the other side of the Pennines for a while?
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16 Dec 2011 19:42 |
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Probably Flick - but all for different aspects of a wider family in there context! There are at least five in my tree, all who had children, so you can see how this develops and causes confusion.
Anyway, thank you all for this help! Much appreciated.
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16 Dec 2011 10:35 |
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Out of sheer curiosity, I did an advanced search on here with keyword Isaac, and author Peter.............18 threads came up.
Could one of those be the one you're looking for?
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16 Dec 2011 01:59 |
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https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=EUROPE England, Diocese of Durham Bishops' Transcripts ca., 1700-1900 - Durham - Aycliffe - 1762-1877 - Image 308 of 514 [1841 bp] March 16th [Entry] No 1347; Ambrose Son of: Edward and Elizabeth[(sic)]; Burnside; Aycliffe; Labourer; J.D.Eadie Vicar
Pity, as sometimes there's more info in Durham registers.
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Chrissie2394
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15 Dec 2011 18:10 |
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There's this family in 1851,
Person: BURNSIDES, Edward Address: Old Meeting House Yard, Guisborough
1851 address search redefine current search Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born Original census image BURNSIDES, Edward Head Married M 50 1801 Licensed Hawker Yackley Durham BURNSIDES, Sarah Wife Married F 47 1804 Bradford Yorkshire BURNSIDES, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834 Guisborough Yorkshire BURNSIDES, Benjamin Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Guisborough Yorkshire BURNSIDES, John Son M 12 1839 Guisborough Yorkshire BURNSIDES, Sarah Daughter F 10 1841 Guisborough Yorkshire BURNSIDES, Isabella Daughter F 7 1844 Guisborough Yorkshire BURNSIDES, Joseph Son M 3 1848 Guisborough Yorkshire Piece: 2375 Folio: 294 Page: 13 Registration District: Guisbrough Civil Parish: Guisborough Municipal Borough: Address: Old Meeting House Yard, Guisborough County: Yorkshire (North riding) Chris
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15 Dec 2011 18:00 |
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1841 census
Person: BURNSIDE, Edward Address: Heighington Street, North Side, Aycliffe, Aycliffe, Great Name Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image BURNSIDE, Edward M 35 1806 Durham BURNSIDE, Elizebeth F 35 1806 Durham BURNSIDE, Christiana F 15 1826 Durham BURNSIDE, Mary F 10 1831 Durham BURNSIDE, James M 8 1833 Durham BURNSIDE, Frances M 6 1835 Durham BURNSIDE, Ann F 3 1838 Durham BURNSIDE, Ambrous M 0 (3 months) 1841 Durham Piece: 303 Book/Folio: 10/6 Page: 6 Registration District: Darlington Civil Parish: Aycliffe Municipal Borough: Address: Heighington Street, North Side, Aycliffe, Aycliffe, Great County: Durham This is the only Edward Burnside showing, only used his name on the search details.
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15 Dec 2011 17:59 |
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?parents: Thomas Patison,? Elizabeth Dunlop
name: George Patison gender: Male baptism/christening date: 07 Nov 1813 baptism/christening place: , ABBEY (PAISLEY), RENFREW, SCOTLAND birth date: 26 Oct 1813 father's name: Thomas Patison mother's name: Elizabeth Dunlop indexing project (batch) number: C11958-2 system origin: Scotland-VR source film number: 1041088
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15 Dec 2011 17:58 |
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1841 Name: David Patteson Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Birstall Hundred: Morley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Liversedge Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1291 Book: 6 Folio: 50 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age George Patterson 30 -c1811 Scotland-Bro?-Tinner Betty Patterson 40 Iasaac Patterson 25 Ann Patterson 25 Bella Patteson 15 Rachel Patteson 15 Esther Patteson 7 William Patteson 5 Marget Patteson 3 Elizabeth Patteson 4 David Patteson 1 Marget Patteson 1 MO
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15 Dec 2011 17:57 |
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This is a possible marriage:
Family Group Record Search Results | Download | Print Husband ALEXANDER GORDON Pedigree Birth: Christening: Marriage: 02 MAY 1842 Sedgefield, Durham, England Death: Burial: Wife ANN BARNSIDES Pedigree Birth: Christening: Marriage: 02 MAY 1842 Sedgefield, Durham, England Death: Burial: Children None
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15 Dec 2011 17:54 |
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1851 Name: David Pattinson Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Son Father's Name: Isaac Pattinson Mother's Name: Ann Pattinson Gender: M (Male) Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Monkwearmouth Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: Monk ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 134 Piece: 2398 Folio: 88 Page Number: 31 Household Members: Name Age Isaac Pattinson 34 Ann Pattinson 34 David Pattinson 11 James Pattinson 7 Isaac Pattinson 6 Ann Pattinson 5 John Pattinson 4 Jane Pattinson 2
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Peter
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15 Dec 2011 17:54 |
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Thank you - that is much appreciated, but I already have a lot of info on Isaac from the census.
Thank you again for this help.
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ellieathome
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15 Dec 2011 17:52 |
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1861 Ancestry Name: Isaac Pattison Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Pattison Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil parish: Middlesbrough Town: Middlesbrough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Stockton Sub-registration district: Yarm ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 104 Piece: 3685 Folio: 12 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Isaac Pattison 45 Ann Pattison 45 James Pattison 20 -c1841 Yorkshire Isaac Pattison 18 -1843 Hartlipool John Pattison 15 -c1843 Stockton William Pattison 7 Thomas Pattison 5 -1856 Knottingley Robert Pattison 1 Ann Pattison 17 Jane Pattison 13 Sarah Pattison 11
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15 Dec 2011 17:42 |
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name: Isaac Pattison event: Census event date: 1861 gender: Male age: 45 relationship to head of household: Head birthplace: Scotland record type: Household registration district: Stockton sub-district: 1 Yarm civil parish: Middlesbrough county: Durham
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15 Dec 2011 17:38 |
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1881 Name: Isaac Pattison Age: 68 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Pattison Gender: Male Where born: Paisley, Scotland Civil parish: Middlesbrough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: 16 Union Cottages Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Tinner Registration district: Middlesbrough Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4846 Folio: 85 Page Number: 38 Household Members: Name Age Isaac Pattison 68 Ann Pattison 64 Hannah Gosling 30 Annie Gosling 8 From Paisley
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Peter
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15 Dec 2011 17:34 |
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Hi there,
I made a post about this family recently but couldn't find it. So, this is a new post so not sure that is important.
My ancestor Isaac Pattison (aged 68) and a tinner married Ann Gordon (aged 58) in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire on 28 Feb. 1881. Both parties were widowed.
I am trying to find more about Ann Gordon; she was the daughter of Edward Burnside (Deceased) a potter, and was born in Guisborough, Yorkshire according to the 1881 census.
I trying to find out more about Ann before she married Isaac Pattison in 1881, and also more about her father Edward Burnside as another twist in the tale shows I am distantly related to a branch called BURNSIDE(s).
Also, Isaac is described as the son of George Pattison, a tinner (Deceased) and I am wanting to find a baptism for him. There is nothing on the IGI. Can anyone else spot him? He was born in Scotland.
Thank you,
Peter
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