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dear mike thanks you all for your help filled in a lot about his life

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Births Mar 1899

Banner Septimus Benjamin II - W. Derby 8b 497

think his registered
name was the other way round
from lancsbmd with correct mmn of Butcher

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1898
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
BANNER Septimus Benjamin H Great Crosby South Sefton BUTCHER C/28/452

BUT I can't find the same reg on freebmd

Septimus is seventh in Latin, often the 7th child has this name. Ben was the seventh. I've got an ancestor who was a Septimus.

I don't recognize the word heammus.

Latin for 1 - unus, una, unum; 1st - primus, prima, primum

Ozi

dear shirley

thanks for the info at least it all fits in with what we knew but he must have had a good job on the ships qw master not to bad and he did go to america
I see that his wife died at age 93 I wish that I had known I could have visited her in rochdale she only died in 2002

amy way to put you out of your r misery his name benjamin septimus heammus the last 2 names are one and twenty one in latin funny women my grandma

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dear shirley

thanks for the info at least it all fits in with what we knew but he must have had a good job on the ships qw master not to bad and he did go to america
I see that his wife died at age 93 I wish that I had known I could have visited her in rochdale she only died in 2002

amy way to put you out of your r misery his name benjamin septimus heammus the last 2 names are one and twenty one in latin funny women my grandma

thanks once agin love rose banner

Could this be Hilda?
Name: Hilda Banner
Birth Date: 29 Sep 1908
Date of Registration: Feb 2002
Age at Death: 93
Registration district: Rochdale
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register number: B59A
District and Subdistrict: 0091B
Entry number: 155

His children were born in 1947 and 1950 reg district Litlleborough ,so that death i posted could well be him

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Robert Banner Name: Robert Banner
Arrival Date: 24 Mar 1944
Birth Year: abt 1898
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Arundel Castle

Listed as 20 yrs service and a Q Master. 46 yrs old.

Tracey x

Not sure if this is him?

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Robert Banner
Arrival Date: 24 Mar 1944
Birth Year: abt 1898
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Arundel Castle

It's a crew list so there's not much personal info other than he'd been at sea for 20 years.

1901
Name: George Banner
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rose Banner
Gender: Male
Where born: Pendleton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Great Crosby
Ecclesiastical parish: Great Crosby St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:111 Lune Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Crosby
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 257
Piece: 3446
Folio: 53
Page Number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
George Banner 40 occ bricklayer
Rose Banner 39
Hugh Banner 15
Mabel Banner 13
Launcelot Banner 12
Thomas Banner 9
Frederick Banner 6
George Banner 4
Benjamin Banner 2


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3446; Folio: 53; Page: 45

only birth I can see ??
Name: Septimus Benjamin II Banner
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1899
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 497

???
Name: Robert Banner
Birth Date: abt 1899
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1964
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Littleborough
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10d
Page: 99

Is this the family in 1911? What on earth is his middle name!!

BANNER, Rose Head Married 27 years F 50 1861 Lancs Liverpool Seaforth
BANNER, William Hugh Son Married M 25 1886 Bricklayer Lancs Liverpool Seaforth
BANNER, Thomas Son Single M 20 1891 Painter Lancs Liverpool Seaforth
BANNER, Frederick Son Single M 16 1895 Errand Boy Lancs Liverpool Seaforth
BANNER, George Wallace Son Single M 15 1896 Errand Boy Lancs Liverpool Seaforth
>>BANNER, Benjamin Sepmusdeber Son Single M 13 1898 School Lancs Liverpool Seaforth
BANNER, John Boden Redvers Son Single M 11 1900 School Lancs Liverpool Seaforth
BANNER, Charles Gordon Son Single M 5 1906 School Lancs Liverpool Seaforth
BANNER, Rose Daughter Single F 5 1906 School Lancs Liverpool Seaforth
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Registration District: West Derby
Sub District: Crosby
Enumeration District: 7
Parish: Seaforth

Address:53 Rawson Road Seaforth County: Lancashire

No mention of where Rose's husband or William's wife is. Rose had 11 children, 1 had died.

Have checked the 1901 and father's name is George. (It does say on 1901 that Rose is from Somerset?)

he married as Robert
Name: Robert Banner
Spouse Surname: Bunnell
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1945
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 1132
Find Spouse: Hilda Bunnell

You seem to have double clicked and your enquiry has gon in twice.

Best to delete the other one and continue on this thread


Will take a look for him .! :-D

I am trying to fill in a few years of my uncles life from when he was born in little crosby liverpool parents george banner and rose butcher I know which school he wentto and I no he was in the 1914 18 war

but after that it is a complete blank I know he went away to sea just as a ordinary seaman just around the coast I think although he used to say he lived in usa for a bit and once in prison in the chain gang in america he used to visit us when he was in port at liverpool somtimes helived to use the name Bob

he married a girl from rochdale called hilda bunnell when he was 49yrs old and had a boy and a girl
I dont know when he died

can you help fill in the cracks

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