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- JOHN TAYLOR born c 1825 ?

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Mike *

Mike * Report 13 Dec 2011 22:02

UPDATE -14. FEB 2012

Now looking for John's Grandfather born c 1825.
See last posting.

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NOW LOOKING FOR 1891 (SORTED)

Please can someone show me the details of the household for this entry in 1901

John Taylor -16- born Lancashire Preston- Lancashire- Preston - Grocers Assistant

Hoping he is with parents.

By 1911 he was married to Ellen Wilding ( married 1905) and had a son James born 1906

Thank you

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 13 Dec 2011 22:05

1901 poss but how will you know if right one ?

Name: John Taylor
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Taylor
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Taylor
Gender: Male
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 52
Piece: 3950
Folio: 32
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
John Taylor 59
Sarah Ann Taylor 55
Charles Frederick Taylor 30
John Taylor 17
George Taylor 14
George Taylor 7



Wrong occupation - this one is a plumber

Mike *

Mike * Report 13 Dec 2011 22:07

The entry I posted is from the 1901 index.
He is listed as aged 16 and a grocers assistant.
So the one listed as 17 won't be him.

I just don't have access to the details

Thanks anyway

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 13 Dec 2011 22:11

Looked at 4 or 5 already and not yet found one that is a grocers assistant

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 13 Dec 2011 22:17

1911 ??

TAYLOR, John Head Married
5 years M 27 1884 Spreader Rubber Works Euxton Lancs VIEW
TAYLOR, Ellen Wife Married F 26 1885 Winder Cotton Mill Farington Lancas VIEW
TAYLOR, James Son M 4 1907 Farington Lancas VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
25242 Reference:
RG14PN25242 RG78PN1445 RD476 SD1 ED9 SN186

Registration District:
Preston Sub District:
Longton Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Farington

Address:
35 East Street Farington

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 13 Dec 2011 22:17

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

TAYLOR, James Head Married M 45 1856 Cotton Loom Overlooker
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Alice Wife Married F 39 1862
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, John Son Single M 16 1885 Grocer's Assistant
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
Piece:
3946 Folio:
35 Page:
34 Registration District:
Preston

Civil Parish:
Preston Municipal Borough:
Address:
86, Geoffrey Street, Preston County:
Lancashire

Mike *

Mike * Report 13 Dec 2011 22:18

According to the index, he is the only one born in Preston , living in Preston, of the right age

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 13 Dec 2011 22:20

Can you post 1911 to confirm details? I found this but not sure how likely it is!

TAYLOR, John Head Married
5 years M 27 1884 Spreader Rubber Works Euxton Lancs VIEW
TAYLOR, Ellen Wife Married F 26 1885 Winder Cotton Mill Farington Lancas VIEW
TAYLOR, James Son M 4 1907 Farington Lancas VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
25242 Reference:
RG14PN25242 RG78PN1445 RD476 SD1 ED9 SN186

Registration District:
Preston Sub District:
Longton Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Farington

Address:
35 East Street Farington County:
Lancashire

Mike *

Mike * Report 13 Dec 2011 22:21

Oh thanks very much.

Yes that's him.

Cheers

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 13 Dec 2011 22:22

Ancestry version for 1901

Name: John Daylor
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Daylor
Mother's Name: Alice Daylor
Gender: Male
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 216
Piece: 3946
Folio: 35
Page Number: 34
Household Members: Name Age
James Daylor 45
Alice Daylor 39
John Daylor 16

Class: RG13; Piece: 3946; Folio: 35; Page: 34

Mike *

Mike * Report 13 Dec 2011 22:26

Sounds like someone had a heavy cold when transcribing the 1901 .

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Jan 2012 16:39

UPDATE.

Have today seen the marriage entry for John Taylor and Ellen Wilding 30th Nov 1905.

John is listed as having no father.

Have found this entry in the births which looks like him if mother unmarried ( Leyland & Euxton close together)

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1884
TAYLOR John - Leyland Preston - TAYLOR

So not sure now that the John with parents James and Alice Taylor in 1901 is the right one....


This is definitely him in 1911

TAYLOR, John Head Married 5 years M -27- 1884
Spreader Rubber Works - Euxton Lancs
TAYLOR, Ellen Wife Married F 26 1885 Winder Cotton Mill Farington Lancas
TAYLOR, James Son M 4 1907 Farington Lancas

Can anyone see him in 1891 please ?

Dea

Dea Report 5 Jan 2012 16:48

Could this be him - from Lancs OPC??

Baptisms: 12 Mar 1884 Parish Church, Euxton, Lancashire, England
John Taylor - Child of Mary Taylor
Born: 25 Feb
Abode: Euxton
Occupation: Factory
Baptised by: J. Williams
Register: Baptisms 1841 - 1900, Page 130, Entry 1034
Source: LDS Film 1526079

Dea x

Choccy

Choccy Report 5 Jan 2012 17:01



??

1891

TAYLOR, Elizabeth Head Widow F 62 1829
Euxton
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Ann Daughter F 23 1868 Winder At Cotton Mill
Euxton
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, James Son M 22 1869 Labourer At Rubber Works
Euxton
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Catherine Daughter F 20 1871 Winder At Cotton Mill
Euxton
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Helen Daughter F 16 1875 Weaver
Euxton
Lancashire VIEW
>>>>>TAYLOR, John Grandson M 7 1884
Euxton
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, John Grandson M 3 1888
Leyland
Lancashire VIEW

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Piece:
3420 Folio:
64 Page:
24 Registration District:
Chorley

Civil Parish:
Leyland Municipal Borough:
Address:
1, Herbert Street, Leyland County:
Lancashire

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 5 Jan 2012 17:06

1901 census transcription details for: 1, Hough Lane Herbert Street, Leyland
RG number: RG13 Piece: 3931 Folio: 137 Page: 25

Reg. District: Chorley Sub District: Leyland
TAYLOR, Elizabeth Head Widow F 73 1828
Euxton
Lancashire
TAYLOR, Ann Daughter Single F 32 1869 Cotton Winder
Euxton
Lancashire
TAYLOR, James Son Single M 31 1870 Rubber Mixer
Euxton
Lancashire
TAYLOR, John Nephew Single M 16 1885 Cotton Weaver
Euxton
Lancashire
TAYLOR, Jack Nephew Single M 14 1887 Cotton Weaver
Leyland
Lancashire
PICKERING, Catherine Boarder Married F 30 1871 Cotton Weaver
Euxton
Lancashire

Maureen

Choccy

Choccy Report 5 Jan 2012 17:06



1881

TAYLOR, Elizabeth Head Widow F 50 1831 Housekeeper
Euxton
Lancashire VIEW
PILKINGTON, William Son Single M 23 1858 Stripper Cotton
Euxton
Lancashire VIEW
>>>>>TAYLOR, Mary Daughter Single F 16 1865 Reeler Cotton
Euxton
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Ann Daughter Single F 13 1868 Reeler Cotton
Euxton
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, James Son Single M 12 1869 Creeler Cotton
Euxton
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Catherine Daughter Single F 10 1871 Reeler Cotton
Euxton
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Ellen Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Euxton
Lancashire VIEW

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Piece:
4215 Folio:
70 Page:
6 Registration District:
Chorley

Civil Parish:
Euxton Municipal Borough:
Address:
36, Pincock St, Euxton County:
Lancashire

Dea

Dea Report 5 Jan 2012 17:09

Could well be Choccy - there was a daughter called Mary:

1881 England Census
about Elizabeth Taylor
Name: Elizabeth Taylor
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Euxton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Euxton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 36 Pincock St
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Housekeeper

Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Leyland
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4215
Folio: 70
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Taylor 50
William Pilkington 23 .............son !
Mary Taylor 16 *****
Ann Taylor 13
James Taylor 12
Catherine Taylor 10
Ellen Taylor 6


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4215; Folio: 70; Page: 6; GSU roll: 1342009

Dea x

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Jan 2012 17:09

Thanks Dea - that could very well be him.
With a bit of luck his DOB will match the one on his death cert.

Choccy, Thank you for that.
I can now hopefully tie Elizabeth in with Mary.

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Jan 2012 17:38

Maureen, I think you've found him in 1901. though he seems to have gone from being Elizabeth's grandson in 1891 to nephew in 1901.

My grocer's boy was obviously wrong.
Sorry for barking up the wrong tree.

Mike *

Mike * Report 13 Feb 2012 23:51

NEW QUERY .


Please could I have a census look up for this couple (Pre 1881)
Looking for mothers

Marriage 2. Jan.1860 – St John’s Preston
John Taylor aged 35. father – Late James Taylor.(Weaver)
Elizabeth Pilkington aged 27 - father William Pilkington (Watchman)


Living in Leyland /Euxton/ Chorley Lancashire


John is Deceased by 1881



Household: 1881

Elizabeth TAYLOR Head W Female 50 Euxton, Lancashire, England Housekeeper
William PILKINGTON Son U Male 23 Euxton, Lancashire, England Stripper Cotton
Mary TAYLOR Daur U Female 16 Euxton, Lancashire, England Reeler Cotton
Ann TAYLOR Daur Female 13 Euxton, Lancashire, England Reeler Cotton
James TAYLOR Son Male 12 Euxton, Lancashire, England Creeler Cotton
Catherine TAYLOR Daur Female 10 Euxton, Lancashire, England Reeler Cotton
Ellen TAYLOR Daur Female 6 Euxton, Lancashire, England Scholar

Dwelling 36 Pincock St. Euxton


Their ages don't seem consistant.

I have a death for John in 1880 which freebmd has recorded as age 61, but according to the parish register looked at today it says 69.

Neither of which matches the age on marriage cert so need to pinpoint the right birth