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Leyther

Leyther Report 25 Nov 2011 18:14

Good evening
I am helping someone to find their relatives in 1911 but I am stumped (Using FMP). The family is the VOSE family. I can see them in 1901 living at 11 Turner Street, Westhoughton, but thought I would have found some of the younger children at least in 1911 but cannot?

Here is a copy of 1901 to give you details....also, my friend says she thinks she has found Thomas Vose in 1881 in Aldershot aged 22, but cannot see him in 1891. Any help would be much appreciated.

1901
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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VOSE, Thomas Head Married M 41 1860 Collier Hewer
Skelmersdale
Lancashire VIEW
VOSE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 35 1866
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
LEE, Fred Step Son M 11 1890
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
VOSE, Mary Ann Daughter F 7 1894
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
VOSE, Martha Daughter F 6 1895
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
VOSE, Florence Daughter F 2 1899
Westhoughton
Lancashire VIEW

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Piece:
3612 Folio:
151 Page:
18 Registration District:
Bolton

Civil Parish:
Westhoughton Municipal Borough:
Address:
11, Turner Street, Westhoughton County:
Lancashire

thank you
Lorraine

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 25 Nov 2011 18:23

1911

VOSE, Thomas Head Married M 50 1861 Coal Miner Hewer Lancashire Armskirk VIEW
VOSE, Elizabeth E Wife Married
18 years F 44 1867 Lanc Artherton VIEW
LEE, Fred Son Single M 21 1890 Coal Miner Hewer Lanc Artherton VIEW
VOSE, Flornce Daughter F 12 1899 School Lanc Westhoughon VIEW
VOSE, Samuel Son M 9 1902 School Lanc Westhoughton VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29885 Reference:
RG14PN29885 RG78PN1730 RD550 SD2 ED8 SN212

Registration District:
Lanchester Sub District:
Consett Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Benfieldside

Address:
13 Dixon Street Blackhill Coun

Leyther

Leyther Report 25 Nov 2011 18:31

Awh thanks that is great - I am going to have a go searching again now as I tried all the names but they did not show for me : ( Thanks for this though...much appreciated.

The mystery for my friend goes back to Thomas' parents, trying to find them - she has sent for his birth cert that says John Vose & Elizabeth Kitchen but has doubts if this is the right one....any chance you can see Thomas as a boy with his parents?

THANK YOU

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 25 Nov 2011 18:34

??

1911 census - household transcription
Person: VOSE, Martha
Address: 56 Park Road Oldham Lancashire

CONNOLLY, James Head Married M 52 1859 Licensed Victualler Lancs Oldham VIEW
CONNOLLY, Alice Wife Married
29 years F 49 1862 Assisting In The Business Lancs Oldham VIEW
CONNOLLY, John Son Single M 20 1891 Cotton Cardroom Grinder In Cotton Mill Lancs Oldham VIEW
ASHMORE, Emma Daughter Married
3 years F 25 1886 Barmaid Lancs Oldham VIEW
ASHMORE, Edith Granddaughter F 2 1909 Lancs Oldham VIEW
VOSE, Martha Servant Single F 18 1893 Domestic Servant General Lancs St Helens VIEW
BAMBER, Elizabeth Servant Single F 17 1894 Domestic Servant General Lancs St Helens VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
24522 Reference:
RG14PN24522 RG78PN1405 RD469 SD3 ED23 SN162

Registration District:
Oldham Sub District:
Oldham South Enumeration District:
23 Parish:
Oldham

Address:
56 Park Road Oldham Lancashire County:
Lancashire

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 25 Nov 2011 18:36

1911 census - household transcription
Person: VOSE, Mary Ann
Address: East Butsfield Satley Tow Law

SUDDES, John Head Married M 27 1884 Farmer Satley Parish County Durham VIEW
SUDDES, Margaret Ann Wife Married
16 years F 36 1875 Satley Parish County Durham VIEW
SUDDES, John William Herbert Son M 14 1897 Farmer's Son Working On Farm Satley Parish County Durham VIEW
SUDDES, Robert Rednor Son M 10 1901 School Lanchester Parish County Durham VIEW
SUDDES, Thomas Henry Son M 7 1904 School Satley Parish County Durham VIEW
SUDDES, Annie Isabel Daughter F 5 1906 School Satley Parish County Durham VIEW
SUDDES, Margaret Daughter F 3 1908 Satley Parish County Durham VIEW
SUDDES, James Son M 1 1910 Satley Parish County Durham VIEW
VOSE, Mary Ann Servant Single F 17 1894 General Servant Domestic Atherton Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29916 Reference:
RG14PN29916 RG78PN1731 RD550 SD3 ED17 SN41

Registration District:
Lanchester Sub District:
Lanchester Enumeration District:
17 Parish:
Lanchester

Address:
East Butsfield Satley Tow Law County:
Durham

Leyther

Leyther Report 25 Nov 2011 18:40

Doh - I can see it now : )

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 25 Nov 2011 18:47

I think you might have to purchase the marriage cert on this one....

Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%)
Lee Elizabeth Ellen Leigh 8c 379
Vose Thomas Leigh 8c 379

Leyther

Leyther Report 25 Nov 2011 18:53

Hi, when I said doh, I meant 1911 haha, THANK YOU all for the other findings - brilliant. I think she has the marriage cert and Thomas's Father is just written as a dash - suggesting he is illigitimate? She then bought a birth cert for Thomas but born 1861 which said parents John & Elizabeth - but I think Thomas born 1861 is wrong, there must be another birth registered maybe?

Thanks again

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 25 Nov 2011 18:56

Who are the witnesses on the marriage cert?

Leyther

Leyther Report 25 Nov 2011 19:08

JUst checked her email to me and she has not put who - just mentioned fathers name was scored...I shall find out although sh eis in New Zealand so I won't get an immediate answer..I'll be back.....

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 25 Nov 2011 19:13

Ok, just wondered if the witnesses might give a clue! ;-)

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 25 Nov 2011 19:21

There is this Thomas Vose born 1858 in Lancashire.

1871 census - household transcription
Person: VOSE, Thomas
Address: Raglan Street, Halliwell

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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VOSE, Maria Head F 37 1834 Lancashire
VOSE, Thomas Son M 13 1858 Lancashire
VOSE, Emma Daughter F 10 1861 Lancashire
VOSE, Alice Daughter F 8 1863 Lancashire

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Piece:
3926 Folio:
38 Page:
7 Registration District:
Bolton

Civil Parish:
Halliwell Municipal Borough:
Address:
Raglan Street, Halliwell County:
Lancashire


Maria is a widow in 1871 will look for her in 1861 .

Leyther

Leyther Report 25 Nov 2011 19:30

yes it would be great if it gave a Vose which wold likely to be a sibling - that would help narrow things down : )

I have just found a Thomas Vose baptised 1858 also.

Baptisms: 15 Dec 1858 Holy Trinity, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Thomas Vose - Son of James Vose & Maria
Abode: Dawes St. Gt. Bolton
Occupation: Striker
Baptised by: Alfred Pavey
Register: Baptisms 1843 - 1862, Page 143, Entry 1140
Source: LDS Film 1966122

Leyther

Leyther Report 25 Nov 2011 19:30

yes it would be great if it gave a Vose which wold likely to be a sibling - that would help narrow things down : )

I have just found a Thomas Vose baptised 1858 also.

Baptisms: 15 Dec 1858 Holy Trinity, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Thomas Vose - Son of James Vose & Maria
Abode: Dawes St. Gt. Bolton
Occupation: Striker
Baptised by: Alfred Pavey
Register: Baptisms 1843 - 1862, Page 143, Entry 1140
Source: LDS Film 1966122

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 25 Nov 2011 19:32

I think this must be the baptism for the above Thomas


Baptisms: 15 Dec 1858 Holy Trinity, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Thomas Vose - Son of James Vose & Maria
Abode: Dawes St. Gt. Bolton
Occupation: Striker
Baptised by: Alfred Pavey
Register: Baptisms 1843 - 1862, Page 143, Entry 1140
Source: LDS Film 1966122

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 25 Nov 2011 19:42

Possible James Vose in 1851 with parents and siblings.


1851 census - household transcription
Person: VOSE, James
Address: Johnsons, Ormskirk

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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VOSE, James Head Married M 55 1796 Farmer
Ormskirk
Lancashire
VOSE, Jane Wife Married F 53 1798 Farmer's Wife
Ormskirk
Lancashire
VOSE, Thomas Son Unmarried M 27 1824 Ag Lab
Ormskirk
Lancashire
VOSE, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 25 1826
Ormskirk
Lancashire
VOSE, Alice Daughter Unmarried F 23 1828
Ormskirk
Lancashire
VOSE, James Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Ag Lab
Ormskirk
Lancashire
GORE, John Servant Unmarried M 24 1827 Ag Lab
Ormskirk
Lancashire
TYRER, Richard Servant M 11 1840
Ormskirk
Lancashire
LANGTON, Ann Servant Unmarried F 15 1836
Ormskirk
Lancashire
SIXSMITH, James Married M 51 1800 Horse Breaker
Wigan
Lancashire

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Piece:
2197 Folio:
494 Page:
13 Registration District:
Ormskirk

Civil Parish:
Ormskirk Municipal Borough:
Address:
Johnsons, Ormskirk County:
Lancashire


Leyther

Leyther Report 25 Nov 2011 19:45

Could this be Emma Vose still single in 1891?

VOSE, Emma Head Single F 30 1861 Roller Coverer Cotton
Halliwell
Lancashire VIEW

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Piece:
3103 Folio:
17 Page:
28 Registration District:
Bolton

Civil Parish:
Halliwell Municipal Borough:
Bolton Address:
65, Raglan Street, Halliwell, Bolton County:
Lancashire

Leyther

Leyther Report 25 Nov 2011 19:50

All good stuff : ) I hope it is a link and proved when she gives me the witnesses on Thomas & Elizabeths marriage cert. I am off out now , just want to say THANK YOU again for all the efforts and info tonight so far. I shall come back online ASAP with further info....cheers

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 25 Nov 2011 19:55

right this could be the right James and Maria's marriage,but Vose spelt Vause..in both Lancashire OPC and freebmd.

Marriage: 18 Aug 1856 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
James Vause - Full Striker Bachelor of Little Bolton
Maria Ridings - Full Spinster of Little Bolton
Groom's Father: Edmund Vause, Weaver
Bride's Father: Thomas Ridings, Over Looker
Witness: John Blackley; Charles Melling, (X)
Married by Banns by: W.H. Coates Curate
Register: Marriages 1856 - 1857, Page 90, Entry 179
Source: Microfilm of the register at Manchester Library

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 25 Nov 2011 20:11

Possible Maria's parents..

1851 census - household transcription
Person: RYDING, Maria
Address: 37, Salter Street, Preston

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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RYDING, Thomas Head Married M 42 1809 Overlooker Cotton
Bolton
Lancashire
RYDING, Mary Wife Married F 41 1810
Bolton
Lancashire
RYDING, Maria Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834 P L Weaver Cotton
Bolton
Lancashire
YATES, Edward Step Son Unmarried M 24 1827 Carder Cotton
Bolton
Lancashire

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Piece:
2266 Folio:
331 Page:
56 Registration District:
Preston

Civil Parish:
Preston Municipal Borough:
Preston Address:
37, Salter Street, Preston County: