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25 Nov 2011 18:14 |
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Good evening I am helping someone to find their relatives in 1911 but I am stumped (Using FMP). The family is the VOSE family. I can see them in 1901 living at 11 Turner Street, Westhoughton, but thought I would have found some of the younger children at least in 1911 but cannot?
Here is a copy of 1901 to give you details....also, my friend says she thinks she has found Thomas Vose in 1881 in Aldershot aged 22, but cannot see him in 1891. Any help would be much appreciated.
1901 Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- VOSE, Thomas Head Married M 41 1860 Collier Hewer Skelmersdale Lancashire VIEW VOSE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 35 1866 Atherton Lancashire VIEW LEE, Fred Step Son M 11 1890 Atherton Lancashire VIEW VOSE, Mary Ann Daughter F 7 1894 Atherton Lancashire VIEW VOSE, Martha Daughter F 6 1895 Atherton Lancashire VIEW VOSE, Florence Daughter F 2 1899 Westhoughton Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 3612 Folio: 151 Page: 18 Registration District: Bolton Civil Parish: Westhoughton Municipal Borough: Address: 11, Turner Street, Westhoughton County: Lancashire thank you Lorraine
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25 Nov 2011 18:23 |
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VOSE, Thomas Head Married M 50 1861 Coal Miner Hewer Lancashire Armskirk VIEW VOSE, Elizabeth E Wife Married 18 years F 44 1867 Lanc Artherton VIEW LEE, Fred Son Single M 21 1890 Coal Miner Hewer Lanc Artherton VIEW VOSE, Flornce Daughter F 12 1899 School Lanc Westhoughon VIEW VOSE, Samuel Son M 9 1902 School Lanc Westhoughton VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 29885 Reference: RG14PN29885 RG78PN1730 RD550 SD2 ED8 SN212 Registration District: Lanchester Sub District: Consett Enumeration District: 8 Parish: Benfieldside Address: 13 Dixon Street Blackhill Coun
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25 Nov 2011 18:31 |
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Awh thanks that is great - I am going to have a go searching again now as I tried all the names but they did not show for me : ( Thanks for this though...much appreciated.
The mystery for my friend goes back to Thomas' parents, trying to find them - she has sent for his birth cert that says John Vose & Elizabeth Kitchen but has doubts if this is the right one....any chance you can see Thomas as a boy with his parents?
THANK YOU
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25 Nov 2011 18:34 |
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1911 census - household transcription Person: VOSE, Martha Address: 56 Park Road Oldham Lancashire CONNOLLY, James Head Married M 52 1859 Licensed Victualler Lancs Oldham VIEW CONNOLLY, Alice Wife Married 29 years F 49 1862 Assisting In The Business Lancs Oldham VIEW CONNOLLY, John Son Single M 20 1891 Cotton Cardroom Grinder In Cotton Mill Lancs Oldham VIEW ASHMORE, Emma Daughter Married 3 years F 25 1886 Barmaid Lancs Oldham VIEW ASHMORE, Edith Granddaughter F 2 1909 Lancs Oldham VIEW VOSE, Martha Servant Single F 18 1893 Domestic Servant General Lancs St Helens VIEW BAMBER, Elizabeth Servant Single F 17 1894 Domestic Servant General Lancs St Helens VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 24522 Reference: RG14PN24522 RG78PN1405 RD469 SD3 ED23 SN162 Registration District: Oldham Sub District: Oldham South Enumeration District: 23 Parish: Oldham Address: 56 Park Road Oldham Lancashire County: Lancashire
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25 Nov 2011 18:36 |
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1911 census - household transcription Person: VOSE, Mary Ann Address: East Butsfield Satley Tow Law SUDDES, John Head Married M 27 1884 Farmer Satley Parish County Durham VIEW SUDDES, Margaret Ann Wife Married 16 years F 36 1875 Satley Parish County Durham VIEW SUDDES, John William Herbert Son M 14 1897 Farmer's Son Working On Farm Satley Parish County Durham VIEW SUDDES, Robert Rednor Son M 10 1901 School Lanchester Parish County Durham VIEW SUDDES, Thomas Henry Son M 7 1904 School Satley Parish County Durham VIEW SUDDES, Annie Isabel Daughter F 5 1906 School Satley Parish County Durham VIEW SUDDES, Margaret Daughter F 3 1908 Satley Parish County Durham VIEW SUDDES, James Son M 1 1910 Satley Parish County Durham VIEW VOSE, Mary Ann Servant Single F 17 1894 General Servant Domestic Atherton Lancashire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 29916 Reference: RG14PN29916 RG78PN1731 RD550 SD3 ED17 SN41 Registration District: Lanchester Sub District: Lanchester Enumeration District: 17 Parish: Lanchester Address: East Butsfield Satley Tow Law County: Durham
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Leyther
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25 Nov 2011 18:40 |
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Doh - I can see it now : )
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25 Nov 2011 18:47 |
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I think you might have to purchase the marriage cert on this one....
Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%) Lee Elizabeth Ellen Leigh 8c 379 Vose Thomas Leigh 8c 379
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25 Nov 2011 18:53 |
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Hi, when I said doh, I meant 1911 haha, THANK YOU all for the other findings - brilliant. I think she has the marriage cert and Thomas's Father is just written as a dash - suggesting he is illigitimate? She then bought a birth cert for Thomas but born 1861 which said parents John & Elizabeth - but I think Thomas born 1861 is wrong, there must be another birth registered maybe?
Thanks again
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25 Nov 2011 18:56 |
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Who are the witnesses on the marriage cert?
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Leyther
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25 Nov 2011 19:08 |
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JUst checked her email to me and she has not put who - just mentioned fathers name was scored...I shall find out although sh eis in New Zealand so I won't get an immediate answer..I'll be back.....
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25 Nov 2011 19:13 |
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Ok, just wondered if the witnesses might give a clue! ;-)
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25 Nov 2011 19:21 |
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There is this Thomas Vose born 1858 in Lancashire.
1871 census - household transcription Person: VOSE, Thomas Address: Raglan Street, Halliwell Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- VOSE, Maria Head F 37 1834 Lancashire VOSE, Thomas Son M 13 1858 Lancashire VOSE, Emma Daughter F 10 1861 Lancashire VOSE, Alice Daughter F 8 1863 Lancashire
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 3926 Folio: 38 Page: 7 Registration District: Bolton Civil Parish: Halliwell Municipal Borough: Address: Raglan Street, Halliwell County: Lancashire Maria is a widow in 1871 will look for her in 1861 .
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25 Nov 2011 19:30 |
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yes it would be great if it gave a Vose which wold likely to be a sibling - that would help narrow things down : )
I have just found a Thomas Vose baptised 1858 also.
Baptisms: 15 Dec 1858 Holy Trinity, Bolton, Lancashire, England Thomas Vose - Son of James Vose & Maria Abode: Dawes St. Gt. Bolton Occupation: Striker Baptised by: Alfred Pavey Register: Baptisms 1843 - 1862, Page 143, Entry 1140 Source: LDS Film 1966122
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Leyther
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25 Nov 2011 19:30 |
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yes it would be great if it gave a Vose which wold likely to be a sibling - that would help narrow things down : )
I have just found a Thomas Vose baptised 1858 also.
Baptisms: 15 Dec 1858 Holy Trinity, Bolton, Lancashire, England Thomas Vose - Son of James Vose & Maria Abode: Dawes St. Gt. Bolton Occupation: Striker Baptised by: Alfred Pavey Register: Baptisms 1843 - 1862, Page 143, Entry 1140 Source: LDS Film 1966122
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25 Nov 2011 19:32 |
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I think this must be the baptism for the above Thomas
Baptisms: 15 Dec 1858 Holy Trinity, Bolton, Lancashire, England Thomas Vose - Son of James Vose & Maria Abode: Dawes St. Gt. Bolton Occupation: Striker Baptised by: Alfred Pavey Register: Baptisms 1843 - 1862, Page 143, Entry 1140 Source: LDS Film 1966122
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25 Nov 2011 19:42 |
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Possible James Vose in 1851 with parents and siblings.
1851 census - household transcription Person: VOSE, James Address: Johnsons, Ormskirk Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- VOSE, James Head Married M 55 1796 Farmer Ormskirk Lancashire VOSE, Jane Wife Married F 53 1798 Farmer's Wife Ormskirk Lancashire VOSE, Thomas Son Unmarried M 27 1824 Ag Lab Ormskirk Lancashire VOSE, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 25 1826 Ormskirk Lancashire VOSE, Alice Daughter Unmarried F 23 1828 Ormskirk Lancashire VOSE, James Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Ag Lab Ormskirk Lancashire GORE, John Servant Unmarried M 24 1827 Ag Lab Ormskirk Lancashire TYRER, Richard Servant M 11 1840 Ormskirk Lancashire LANGTON, Ann Servant Unmarried F 15 1836 Ormskirk Lancashire SIXSMITH, James Married M 51 1800 Horse Breaker Wigan Lancashire
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 2197 Folio: 494 Page: 13 Registration District: Ormskirk Civil Parish: Ormskirk Municipal Borough: Address: Johnsons, Ormskirk County: Lancashire
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25 Nov 2011 19:45 |
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Could this be Emma Vose still single in 1891?
VOSE, Emma Head Single F 30 1861 Roller Coverer Cotton Halliwell Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 3103 Folio: 17 Page: 28 Registration District: Bolton Civil Parish: Halliwell Municipal Borough: Bolton Address: 65, Raglan Street, Halliwell, Bolton County: Lancashire
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25 Nov 2011 19:50 |
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All good stuff : ) I hope it is a link and proved when she gives me the witnesses on Thomas & Elizabeths marriage cert. I am off out now , just want to say THANK YOU again for all the efforts and info tonight so far. I shall come back online ASAP with further info....cheers
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Sue In Yorkshire.
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25 Nov 2011 19:55 |
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right this could be the right James and Maria's marriage,but Vose spelt Vause..in both Lancashire OPC and freebmd.
Marriage: 18 Aug 1856 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England James Vause - Full Striker Bachelor of Little Bolton Maria Ridings - Full Spinster of Little Bolton Groom's Father: Edmund Vause, Weaver Bride's Father: Thomas Ridings, Over Looker Witness: John Blackley; Charles Melling, (X) Married by Banns by: W.H. Coates Curate Register: Marriages 1856 - 1857, Page 90, Entry 179 Source: Microfilm of the register at Manchester Library
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25 Nov 2011 20:11 |
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Possible Maria's parents..
1851 census - household transcription Person: RYDING, Maria Address: 37, Salter Street, Preston Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RYDING, Thomas Head Married M 42 1809 Overlooker Cotton Bolton Lancashire RYDING, Mary Wife Married F 41 1810 Bolton Lancashire RYDING, Maria Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834 P L Weaver Cotton Bolton Lancashire YATES, Edward Step Son Unmarried M 24 1827 Carder Cotton Bolton Lancashire
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 2266 Folio: 331 Page: 56 Registration District: Preston Civil Parish: Preston Municipal Borough: Preston Address: 37, Salter Street, Preston County:
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