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Help on Ada Margaret Shinn!

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Kiri

Kiri Report 24 Nov 2011 19:03

Ada Margaret Shinn

Birth Mar 1888inCardiff County, Wales
Death 30 Jul 1954inCoulsdon, Surrey, England

If anyone can help on any info on her please help me, was was my great grandmother but i don't know anything about her father i guess he was a Shinn and all i know about her mother is that she was 67 when she died in 1931 so she would have been born in 1864.
thank you for any help
kiri

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Nov 2011 19:06

Hi Kiri - you should really get a copy of Ada's marriage certificate to be certain of her father's name and occupation.

Who did she marry, where and when?

You can search for records on FreeBMD. http://www.freebmd.org.uk

Andrew

Andrew Report 24 Nov 2011 19:06

1891 census

1891 England Census
about Ada Margaret Shinn
Name: Ada Margaret Shinn
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
[Cardiff, Jamaica]

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Camberwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 21a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 467
Folio: 81
Page Number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
George Shinn 54
Jane Amelia Shinn 58
Geo Thomas Shinn 31
Emily Jane Shinn 32
Wm Pearsall Shinn 27
Herbert Edward Shinn 18
Ernest C Shinn 16
Sidney Shinn 14
Elizabeth Shinn 27 Daughter in law
Ada Margaret Shinn 3 Granddaugthers
Emily May Shinn 1
Edith Anelia Shinn 1/12
Mary Ann Thetford 64 Boarder

Looks like her mother is Elizabeth. Only son married here is George.

Maybe their marrige

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)
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LEATHER Elizabeth Pancras 1b 136
SHINN George Pancras 1b 136

Andy

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 24 Nov 2011 19:08

1911? Is this her but father missing

SHINN, Elizabeth Head Married
24 years F 46 1865 Caretaker London North VIEW
SHINN, Ada Margret Daughter Single F 22 1889 Machinist Cardiff Wales VIEW
SHINN, Edith Amelia Daughter Single F 20 1891 Domestic Servant General London Peckham VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2467 Reference:
RG14PN2467 RG78PN83 RD27 SD2 ED8 SN75

Registration District:
Camberwell Sub District:
Camberwell South Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Camberwell

Address:
25 East Dulwich Road S E County:
London

George

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Nov 2011 19:10

get her birth cert for details of her parents
Name: Ada Margaret Shinn
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1888
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorgan, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 331

Kiri

Kiri Report 24 Nov 2011 19:11

Marie, Ada married Allan Ewart Spicer Ballam in 1911 in camberwell (my great grandfather)

Andy thank you, i have seen that census and to me it looks like Elizabeth would be her mother but i have no idea about the father?

thank you
kiri

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Nov 2011 19:12

1901 and she looks very much to be the daughter of Elizabeth Shinn
Name: Ada Shinn
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardiff, Wales

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Blenheim Grove
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:43 Elm Grove

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Piece: 504
Folio: 33
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Emily Shinn 40 head
Elizabeth Shinn 37 sister in law -married
Ada Shinn 13
May Shinn 12
Edie Shinn 10
George Wiggins 23
William Wiggins 19
Henry Wiggins 19
Frederic Lucas 27


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 504; Folio: 33; Page: 4

Kiri

Kiri Report 24 Nov 2011 19:13

George yes i have seen this to and i think so :) but as you say there is not father.

kiri

Kiri

Kiri Report 24 Nov 2011 19:14

Shirley, i think this to i have seen that in the past , thank you kiri :)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Nov 2011 19:16

Kiri
you need to buy her birth cert and possibly her marriage cert, If theres no father on the birth cert but one on the marriage cert it may be she gave a name for the marriage to save face .

Kiri

Kiri Report 24 Nov 2011 19:21

I know i had hoped someone may have known something
thank you
kiri

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Nov 2011 19:21

well theres no Elizabeth with the family in 1881
Name: George Shinn
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane P. Shinn
Gender: Male
Where born: Barton Mills, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 137 Cator St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Upholsterer

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 696
Folio: 153
Page Number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
George Shinn 48
Jane P. Shinn 47
George Thos. Shinn 21
Emily Shinn 21
Alfred Shinn 18
William Shinn 17
Herbert Shinn 8
Ernest Shinn 6
Sydney Shinn 4



Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 696; Folio: 153; Page: 58; GSU

note there is a son GeorgeThomas Shinn in the family

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Nov 2011 19:26

Name: George Thomas Shinn
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1859
Baptism Date: 21 Aug 1859
Father's Name: George Shinn occ upholsterer
Mother's Name: Jane Amelia Shinn
Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington Green St Mary
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers
born 30.6 1859

Andrew

Andrew Report 24 Nov 2011 19:30

A tree on ancestry has her (Ada Margaret) parents as George Thomas Shinn and Elizabeth Leather (posted above) along with a photo

Andy

Kiri

Kiri Report 24 Nov 2011 19:32

Elizabeth woudn't have been a Shinn i think this family are the mother and father of Ada's father, i think Ada's father is George thomas Shinn age 21 in this census.
kiri

Kiri

Kiri Report 24 Nov 2011 19:33

Yes Andy thats mine
kiri

Andrew

Andrew Report 24 Nov 2011 19:37

So you already have her parents in your tree.......so why are you asking for info about George?? You alreay seem to have lots of info about him already.

Andy

Kiri

Kiri Report 24 Nov 2011 19:39

because i don't know if it's right...... i may be wrong, just wanted to know if anyone knew anything
kiri

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Nov 2011 19:49

her birth cert will tell you then no need to wonder !! :-D

Kiri

Kiri Report 25 Nov 2011 12:23

just to say last night i found a grandmothers papers with everything she researched into and she has the same family tree down as I have. It made my day!
Ada's mother is Elizabeth Leather and father George Thomas Shinn
thank you for all the help
kiri :)