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yeah i have been looking into the family of the mabel in the marriage but i'm still unsure, thank you for the help :)
kiri

yeah i have been looking into the family of the mabel in the marriage but i'm still unsure, thank you for the help :)
kiri

There are no other marriages for a Mabel Colgan so either that was her or she never married or went by another name?

If he grew up with his mother, then you can rule out the marriage

Really two daughters! No i know nothing about that, this makes it more unlikely. Everything is unknown really, that side of my tree stops at Norman really.
kiri

I think he was but he never spoke about her, I only found out her name by looking at his birth cert. The only thing I have been told is that Norman spoke about someone called Anthony a cousin.
Kiri

Was Norman not bought up by his mother?

What has never been known?

It looks like Judd/Colgan marriage had two daughters do you know of them?

I'm just unsure because it has never been known in the family. It would seem strange that they (Mabel and C Judd) would not have been around or talked about...thats the only reason.
Kiri

Name: Mabel Colgan
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Spouse Name: Charles Edwin Judd
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Apr 1919
Parish: Clapham Christ Church
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Arthur Michael Colgan
Spouse Father Name: Charles William Judd
Register Type: Parish Register

Address for both of them was 64 Union Road

I dont know why you think Mabel's marriage was too late?? obviously she was not married when Norman was born...but may have married Mr Judd at a later date

jax

I know at the time of Normans birth they lived at 274 Brixton Road, Lambeth, London (1915)

kiri

wow thank you for all the messages!

Dea, yes you found his birth, thank you for the Mabel Colgan i will have a look at it. And about the marriage, i think that would be to late and Norman never said anything about his mother.

Margaret, he was born in lambeth in 1915 and died in lambeth in 1978 married in in 1937.

Jax, I was thinking that, maybe Mabel was there but i don't think his father was around at all.

kiri :)

Could this be a later marriage for her?

Marriages Jun 1919
Colgan Mabel Judd Wandsworth 1d 1139
Judd Charles E Colgan Wandsworth 1d 1139


Dea x

Marriage

Marriages Jun 1937 (>99%)
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Ballam Kathleen J Colgan Camberwell 1d 1552
COLGAN Norman Ballam Camberwell 1d 1552

May show a fathers name?

This is the only Mabel Colgan I can find on 1911?

COLGAN, Mabel Probationer Single F 21 1890 Probationer Nurse Hospital Leamington Worcester VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18103 Reference:
RG14PN18103 RD384 SD3 ED43 SN9999

Registration District:
Birmingham Sub District:
St George Enumeration District:
43 Parish:
Birmingham

Address:
Steelhouse Lane Birmingham County:
Warwickshire

Dea x

Hi Kiri

Do you know where he was born, died or any other information.

Margaret

For reference - I presume this is him??

Births Dec 1915 (>99%)
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COLGAN Norman COLGAN Lambeth 1d 500

mother's maiden name was Colgan so 'perhaps' unmarried?

Dea x

I know my grandfather was called Norman Colgan and born 1915 but i have no idea who his mother or father are.
All i know is that Normans mother was called Mabel Colgan, i have no information on where she was born or when.
Also i have no information on his father.
Colgan is a irish name so i'm sure that Normans father or mothers side have to be irish, one other thing is that Norman may have had a cousin called Anthnoy.
If anyone knows anything about this please let me know.
thank you
kiri.