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Ian, I should have said that the Poor Relief records at the Mitchell are indexed which makes them easy to search. If you are going on a Saturday or evening just 'phone to check that there will be a porter on duty to bring the great tomes to you!

Thank for your super help

Luke Fitzpatrick gas works labourer
Bridget Reilly

Sorry not seeong a Luke Fitzpatrick in Scotland!

I think that this may be the parents in that earlier census I posted - so probably not you family.

JAMES MECHAN Marriages:
Spouse: MARY MCDONAN Family
Marriage: 24 AUG 1851 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
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Hi Roots
parents were Luke Fitzpatrick gas works labourer
Bridget Reilly

Hi Roots parents were Luke Fitzpatrick gas works labourer
and Bridget Reilly

If you don't have the census, do you want me to see if I can find Margaret with her parents please? If so give me their names from the marriage certificate.

Hi Roots I live in Denny so not to far into Glasgow

Yes they would marry there as that would be their local church - that or St. Francis.

Alas Ian there are no early Irish census! They were destroyed. The only ones currently available are the 1901 and 1911.

I can't find Patrick in 1881 - most annoying.

I am kind of drawn (though maybe clutching at straws here) to this family/

1861

Name: James Meehan
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Meehan
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/10
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Gorbals
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Third Back Land
Occupation: Labourer
ED: 93
Household schedule number: 49
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1861_113
Household Members: Name Age
James Meehan 40
Mary Meehan 33
Bridget Meehan 7 b. Glasgow
Patrick Meehan 2 b. Glasgow
John Meehan 1 MO
Bryan Monaghan 30
John Monaghan 26
Walter McDonald 24
John Lyton 25
Sarah Monaghan 30
Mary Monaghan 19

I am wondering if his mother died when he was young, he just thought that his older sister was named for her Mum?

If you are handy for the Mitchell library you could search the Poor Relief records (thinking that he may have been orphaned). Those records are a wonderful source of information about our Irish ancestors if they claimed poor relief.

I'll try to follow that family above on census records.

Roots a lot of the Marriages for this family took place in the St John's Chaple, Portugal Road, Glasgow

Roots you are a great researcher :-)
can you point me the way to find James and Patrick in the early Irish records

Difference in birthyear but the rough area?

1871

Name: Patrick Meenan
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 646/1
Registration district: Govan Church
Civil parish: Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 15 Maclean St
Occupation: Engineers Labourer
ED: 23
Household schedule number: 53
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1871_143
Household Members: Name Age
William Broadfoot 38
Henretta Broadfoot 36
Annie Hughes 18
Patrick Meenan 18
Oliver Cassidy 18
James King 16
Andrew Mckean 22
Thomas Besson 45

This may be Margaret before they married? Not that it helps really - just looking for a possible area that Patrick may be living in. Of course at that time there were loads of Irish in the Gorbals area (my own lot included!)

Name: Margaret Fitzpatrick
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Hutchesontown
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 52 Rose St (Back)
Occupation: Cotton Reeler
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 138
Line: 1
Roll: cssct1881_242
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Summers 45
James Summers 21
Catherine Summers 19
Martin Summers 17
Margaret Fitzpatrick 18

Still trying to find Patrick lurking in the 1881. He must have been in Glasgow or surrounding area before he married Margaret - unless it was a real whirlwind romance!

Roots Brill thats the family ok :-D

Their son Owen went on to marry Eliza Gillan on the 7/6/1901 Glasgow could never find his marriage cert details

Got them in 1891!

So Patrick born about 1857?

Name: Margaret Meeken
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Patrick Meeken
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 286 Rutherglen Rd
ED: 21
Household schedule number: 54
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1891_286
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Meeken 34 Mason's Labourer, b. Ireland
Margaret Meeken 29
Owen Meeken 8
Bessie Meeken 6
Agnes Meeken 4
James Meeken 2
Edward Fitzpatrick 24

Struggling here to find them on census records.

He married Margaret Fitzpatrick b abt 1863
sorry corrction they married 24/10/1881
Patrick was a Bricklayers labourer
James was a farm labourer

Who did he marry please? His occupation? His father's?

I have a copy of Patricks Marriage cert he married in Glasgow 24/4/1881 his parents were deceased at that point