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Can anyone help please. There is a record of a Peter Sayer leaving Liverpool in 1957. I know he went to America where he died inestate and that my mother in law received a small inheritance from him. She has since died and we cannot find anything else out. Has anyone access to these records and can they let me have any information .
Many thanks Olwen

Possible? 1956?

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Peter Sayer Name: Peter Sayer
Arrival Date: 13 Nov 1956
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: British (English)
Place of Origin: Britain
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Franconia
Search Ship Database: Search the Franconia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database


Address Apt. 409, 20 Tyler Highland Park, 3 Michigan

There is this, but birth given as 1929

passenger transcript details
Name: Peter SAYER
Date of departure: 3 November 1956
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: 3 March 1929
Age: 27 (calculated from DOB)
Marital status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Mech Engineer
Passenger recorded on: Page 13 of 17




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FRANCONIA

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New York, USA


address in the uk given as 57 Gresham Road, Birmingham

George

This one is closer to the birth year ...

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Peter Sayer
Arrival Date: 3 Sep 1930
Birth Year: abt 1900
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Leviathan

EDIT: Scrub this - the name is Sawyer on original image (will leave it here for elimination)

Olwen - when did he die? (and do you know where in the US?)

We might be able to work back from that?

Do we take it he wasn't married? Or, if he was, who to?

He didn't marry. The probate division was in St. Charles Missouri.and is dated 8/6/1995 when all the settlements were made. He had no relatives in America. Therefore I think it took some time before they tracked everyone down. The date of death would probably be some years before 1995.

Off out now for afternoon coffee and cakes at friends Will come back to this early tonight. Many thanks for the help

Enjoyed my cake and coffee and now back on. I also had a look to see if there was are more papers about Peter Sayer but not been able to find anything else.

Do you know where he was born????? Anything at all would be helpful.

Maureen

PS-Darn-you just kicked my sweet tooth into high gear!!

I'm really struggling to find any records - these are the only deaths I can find:

Name Birth Date Death Date Last Residence
Peter Sayer 15 Nov 1900 Jul 1956
Peter Sayer 4 Aug 1908 24 Mar 1992
Peter Sayer 28 Mar 1917 Dec 1984 Hillside, Union, New Jersey
Peter Sayer 27 Sep 1918 28 Jun 1998 Rushville, Yates, New York
Peter A. Sayer 25 Jun 1932 2 Oct 1990

There's a death here of a Joseph Sayer in St. Charles, 1997. There's a son named Peter:

http://business.highbeam.com/435553/article-1G1-55749422/obituaries

I'm struggling to find a birth of a Peter Sayer in the UK between 1900 & 1905 .....

Do you know where he was born, and who his parents were?

Was he a close relation of your mother-in-law?

I am really really sorry. A typing error on date of birth !! Year of birth is 1932 born in Oldham. reference 8D 1067 All your hard work gone to waste. And there was me stuffing my face full of blackcurrant cheesecake. All of you please accept my humble apologies.

could this be the record in question

SAYER Peter Unknown M 1957 Liverpool Canada Montreal

is it possible that he settled in Canada and not the United States ?


keep the jam off your monitor and you will see the birthdates of all the Peter Sayers that people were posting ! :-)

no it looks like Marie Celeste probably found the right death

Peter A. Sayer 25 Jun 1932 2 Oct 1990

Births Sep 1932
Sayer Peter A /Sellars Oldham 8d 1067

Promises of cheesecake would cloud my thinking as well!!!

I think the Canadian arrival might be him. Naturally, he's the only one on the page with no occupation or birthdate listed. Just an address of:
6 Waugh Ave. Fallworth Manchester

Social Security Death Index about Peter A. Sayer
Name: Peter A. Sayer
SSN: 523-54-0110
Born: 25 Jun 1932
Died: 2 Oct 1990
State (Year) SSN issued: Colorado (1959)

Oddly no place of death given.

From a few past addresses he seemed to have roamed around a little.
All U.S. Public Records Index
Peter A Sayer 25 Jun 1932 PO Box 1, Mesa, AZ, 85211-0001 (1989)

Peter A Sayer 25 Jun 1932 10094 N Executive Dr A, Saint Ann, MO, 63074

Peter A Sayer 25 Jun 1932 6359 S 80th East Ave Apt A, Tulsa, OK, 74133-3820

Maureen

Edit: Missed one:

Peter Sayer 25 Jun 1932 2240 Campus Dr, Saint Charles, MO, 63301-1052


Edit again...
Uh-oh. Who's this???
U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 2 about Nancy Sayer
Name: Nancy Sayer
Birth Date: 23 Sep 1936
Address: 2240 Campus Dr, Saint Charles, MO, 63301-1052

I'm getting confused!!!!!

oops I see it looks like I meant 'not that is not him in the Canadian arrival'

I meant 'no he probably didn't settle in Canada' since the death record Marie Celeste found matches the birth record :-)

it is odd that no place of death is given isn't it ?

olwen probably knows that part though !

looking for the second address at google maps ... there is W Executive Dr and S Executive Dr but no N Executive Dr

Executive Dr S is a giant carpark, maybe buildings have been torn down ... Executive Dr W has a few houses on the other side

since the probate was in Missouri he must have been living there again when he died

6359 S 80th E Ave
Tulsa, OK 74133, USA

does exist in a collection of low apartment blocks it seems

maybe he really was married to Nancy and she predeceased him and they had no children ?

or they divorced? I think Ancestry shows some divorce records ... but Nancy could still be living ...

Maureen If you are confused there is no hope for me!!! we did know he had emigrated, but it was only out of the blue when the probate people contacted my mother in law about the inheritance that they remembered him. Therefore we assumed he hadn't married as there were no relatives apart from here.

Or maybe a common-law sort of thing. I really don't see her anywhere else.

Maureen