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Looking for more info about John James Cope. I know very little - he would have been born c.1880, likely in UK or India, but possibly elsewhere. He married Mary Caroline Dart (b.1879 Bombay) on 28.1.1904 in Bombay. He was still alive in 1918 as he is mentioned as an executor in her father's will. Do not know where he died or when. Any help gratefully received!

According to a tree on Ancestry, he was 31 when he married which would make birth year c1873

Unfortunately, that's all they have on him.

from familysearch.org:-

Birth/Christening, 1862 - 1882, India, Asia
Father: William Cope, Mother: Jane

1. John James Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 02 APR 1872
2. John James Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 JUN 1872 Karachi, Maharashtra, India

and possible siblings?

3. Violet Florence Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 07 AUG 1879
4. Violet Florence Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 30 AUG 1879 Karrachi, , Maharashtra, India
5. Eveline Juliet Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 15 JUL 1856
6. Eveline Juliet Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 04 AUG 1856 Deesa, , Maharashtra, India
7. Myrtle Agnes Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 26 MAR 1874 Presidency Of, , Maharashtra, India
8. Myrtle Agnes Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 MAY 1874 Karachi, Maharashtra, India
9. Jane Emily Pauline Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 14 OCT 1865
10. Jane Emily Pauline Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 05 NOV 1865 Kurrachee, Maharashtra, India
11. Mary Ann Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 12 AUG 1862
12. Mary Ann Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 21 AUG 1862 Kirkee, Maharashtra, India
13. Ann Helena Sophia Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 07 JUL 1860
14. Ann Helena Sophia Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 15 AUG 1860 Kurrachee, Maharashtra, India
15. Cecilia Sarah Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 10 FEB 1852
16. Cecilia Sarah Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 APR 1852 Bombay, Maharashtra, India
17. William Robert Thomas Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 23 MAR 1868
18. William Robert Thomas Cope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 13 MAY 1868 Kurruchee, , Maharashtra, India

Thank you all SO much for that information; I am very grateful. And SO many siblings. Crikey! xxx

Now I need his will......!

Catherine - when you got the possible siblings from the IGI did they have parents' names?

Sally - if you go to FamilySearch - http://www.familysearch.org you can put some the names in the search box and see what info is provided.

Hi - Yes I did that last night. Familysearch is SO much better nowadays.I tried various combinations of names, dates and places and I think I have (actually, I am certain) found two children born to John James and Mary Caroline: Dorothy Jane Cope b 24.1.1905 Bombay and Nancy Mary Cope b.22.10.1905. Fab! These are my Granny's 1st cousins.
Have looked for a will for both JJ and MC but nothing; they probably did not have propertyin the UK. Her father's will left money and property in India but nowhere else. Thanks!

Anyone got a Dorothy Jane Cope or a Nancy Mary Cope in their trees?

The way to find that out is to use the "Search Trees" facility at the top of the page.

Did that but no results. Sigh!

Tell a lie - there is one person on there 4 times. Will wait for reply....born in Bombay too - promising!

Hi Sally,
Sorry I had to go yesterday, so just looking in to see if there is anything new.

Found this which could very well be a marriage for William and Jane?:-

Entry from Transcription of Marriage Indexes 1709 - 1893
Presidency of Marriage Bombay
Marriage Year 1849
Husband First Names William
Husband Surname Cope
Wife First Names Jane
Wife Surname Thomas
IOR Reference Z/N/3
Volume Number 23
Folio 108
LDS Film Reference 528777
Transcribed by Sylvia Murphy


........you already have the marriage for John James and Mary Caroline but this is another reference for the same:-

Entry from Transcription of Marriage Indexes 1894-1909
Year of marriage 1904
Volume 91
Folio 65
Surname COPE
First name John
Initials J
Surname DART
First name Mary
Initial C
LDS Film Number 462970

....................may be of interest:-

Entry from Deaths 13 September 1880 to 31 December 1880
Surname Cope
Given name(s) Violet Florence
Place Manora
Year 1880
month Dec
day 6
Register Entry Dec 6th at Manora Violet Florence the beloved and youngest daughter of Mr W Cope aged 1 year 5 months and 25 days deeply regretted
Edition Year 1880
Edition Date 17-Dec
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Entry from Transcription of Marriage Indexes 1709 - 1893
Presidency of Marriage Bombay
Marriage Year 1872
Husband First Names James T
Husband Surname Duffy
Wife First Names Eveline J
Wife Surname Cope
IOR Reference Z/N/3
Volume Number 46
Folio 152
LDS Film Reference 523848
Transcribed by Sylvia Murphy

Entry from Transcription of Marriage Indexes 1709 - 1893
Presidency of Marriage Bombay
Marriage Year 1872
Husband First Names James T
Husband Surname Duffy
Wife First Names Eveline J
Wife Surname Cope
IOR Reference Z/N/3
Volume Number 46
Folio 176
LDS Film Reference 523848
Transcribed by Sylvia Murphy
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Entry from Transcription of Marriage Indexes 1709 - 1893
Presidency of Marriage Bombay
Marriage Year 1891
Husband First Names Thos D
Husband Surname Blair
Wife First Names Myrtle A
Wife Surname Cope
IOR Reference Z/N/3
Volume Number 65
Folio 263
LDS Film Reference 523866
Transcribed by Sylvia Murphy
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This is interesting as it shows that William was deceased at the time and that he was born in Lincolnshire:-

Entry from Marriages 1891
Grooms Surname Blair
First names Thomas Duff
click to find all other "Brides Surname"s with value "Cope" in "Marriages 1891" Brides Surname Cope
First names Myrtle Agnes
click to find all other "Place"s with value "Aden" in "Marriages 1891" Place Aden
Year 1891
month May
day 22
Register Entry May 22nd at Christ Church Steamer Point Aden by the Rev PS Grove Thomas Duff Blair Commander ss ""Tunn"" to Myrtle Agnes youngest daughter of the late Mr William Cope of Manora Kurrachee and Lincolnshire England
Edition Year 1891
Edition Date 16 Jun
..........................................................

Entry from Transcription of Marriage Indexes 1709 - 1893
Presidency of Marriage Bombay
Marriage Year 1883
Husband First Names William W
Husband Surname Newman
Wife First Names Jane E
Wife Surname Cope
IOR Reference Z/N/3
Volume Number 57
Folio 309
LDS Film Reference 462968
Transcribed by Sylvia Murphy

...............some more:-

Entry from Transcription of Marriage Indexes 1709 - 1893
Presidency of Marriage Bombay
Marriage Year 1886
Husband First Names James
Husband Surname Robertson
Wife First Names Mary A
Wife Surname Cope
IOR Reference Z/N/3
Volume Number 60
Folio 132
LDS Film Reference 523860
Transcribed by Sylvia Murphy
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Entry from Transcription of Marriage Indexes 1709 - 1893
Presidency of Marriage Bombay
Marriage Year 1877
Husband First Names Alfred W
Husband Surname Seabrook
Wife First Names Ann H
Wife Surname Cope
IOR Reference Z/N/3
Volume Number 51
Folio 299
LDS Film Reference 523853
Transcribed by Sylvia Murphy
...................................

Entry from Marriages 1 January 1877 to 30 June 1877 and 1 October 1877 to 31 December 1877
Surname Seabrook
First names Alfred William
Brides Surname Cope
First names Ann Helena Sophia
Place Kurrachee
Year 1877
month Oct
day 23
Entry Oct 23rd at Holy Trinity Church Kurrachee by the Senior Chaplain Rev W Clark, Alfred William Seabrook, First Class engineer HM's Indian Marine to Ann Helena Sophia daughter of Mr William Cope, esq, Manora
Edition Year 1877
Edition Date 30-Oct
Editn 259
..............................................

Not sure if this one is correct as middle initial is not correct:-

Entry from Transcription of Marriage Indexes 1709 - 1893
Presidency of Marriage Bombay
Marriage Year 1868
Husband First Names Thomas
Husband Surname Ward
Wife First Names Cecilia C
Wife Surname Cope
IOR Reference Z/N/3
Volume Number 42
Folio 175
LDS Film Reference 523927
Transcribed by Sylvia Murphy
.......................................
YES it is correct:-
Entry from Marriages 1868
click to find all other "Grooms Surname"s with value "Ward" in "Marriages 1868" Grooms Surname Ward
First names T
click to find all other "Brides Surname"s with value "Cope" in "Marriages 1868" Brides Surname Cope
First names Cecilia Sarah
click to find all other "Place"s with value "Manora" in "Marriages 1868" Place Manora
Year 1868
month May
day 13
Register Entry May 13th at St Paul's Church, Manora, Kurrachee by the Venerable Archdeacon Leigh Lye MA, Mr T Ward to Cecilia Sarah eldest daughter of Mr W Cope of Manora
Year 1868
Date 25 May
Edition daily

(gosh she was only 16yrs old!)
......................................................


And William's death:-

Entry from Deaths 1889
click to find all other "Surname"s with value "Cope" in "Deaths 1889" Surname Cope
Given name(s) William
click to find all other "Place"s with value "Kurrachee" in "Deaths 1889" Place Kurrachee
Year 1889
month Jan
day 19
Register Entry Jan 19th at Sunny Cottage Kurrachee William Cope of Lincolnshire England aged 67 years
Year 1889
Date 21 Jan

(makes his date of birth abt. 1822)

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have to go, hubby has just opened a bottle!

possible birth??

WILLIAM COPE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 JUN 1823 Whaplode, Lincoln, England
Father: JOHN COPE
Mother: ANN

Sally,
Who are Dorothy and Nancy Cope?
How are they connected to John James?

Daughters! Thank you all so much for this - I so hope it is right as I now live about 10 mins from Whaplode!!! Grave visits to follow.....will report back once I have had time to digest. Have been at the church quiz with a fair amount of red wine so it might be tomorrow pm!

Can't see a birth to go with this, but it does seem to be another son of William:-

Entry from Deaths 1894
click to find all other "Surname"s with value "Cope" in "Deaths 1894" Surname Cope
Given name(s) Alfred Reginald
click to find all other "Place"s with value "Colaba" in "Deaths 1894" Place Colaba
Year 1894
month Oct
day 25
Register Entry Oct 25th at No 2 Grant Buildings Colaba Alfred Reginald youngest son of the late Mr W Cope of Manora Kurrachee aged 17 years 6 months and 6 days deeply regretted by his sorrowing relatives friends will please accept this intimation Funeral will arrive at the Sawreo Cemetery at 5.30 o'clock this evening
Edition Year 1894
Edition Date 26 Oct

Children of Eveline Juliet:-

Birth/Christening, 1868 - 1888, India, Asia
Father: James Duffy, Mother: Eveline
Exact Spelling: Off

1. James Thomas Duffy - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 28 JUL 1881 Karachi, , , India
2. Jane Henriette Cecilia Duffy - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 14 AUG 1875 Presidency Of, Bombay, Maharashtra, India
3. Jane Henriette Cecilia Duffy - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 SEP 1875 Kurrachee, Maharashtra, India
4. Eveline Jane Elizabeth Duffy - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 20 SEP 1873
5. Eveline Jane Elizabeth Duffy - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 SEP 1873 Karachi, Maharashtra, India

.......husband must have died between 1881 and 1884 as.......Eveline Juliet married twice:-

Entry from Marriages 1884
Groom Poy
First names Jules Bernardes
Bride Duffy
First names Eveline Juliet
Place Bombay
Year 1884
month Aug
day 25
Register Entry Aug 25th at St Thomas's Cathedral Bombay Eveline Juliet widow of the late JT Duffy to Jules Bernardes Poy (Kurrachee and Madras papers please copy)
Edition Year 1884
Edition Date 03-Sep


Birth/Christening, 1880 - 1900, India, Asia
Father: Jules Poy, Mother: Eveline
Exact Spelling: Off

1. Louisa Julia Eveline Poy - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 24 OCT 1885
2. Louisa Julia Eveline Poy - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 23 NOV 1885 Bombay, Maharashtra, India