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Mad Alice
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17 Oct 2011 21:47 |
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I am looking for Harriet Newport born in Enbourne or Shrivenham or Ashbury Berkshire in 1857. Mother Anna and father Charles Newport.
Just wondering where she is as she does not seem to be living with her family - rather odd !
Thank you for any help you can give.
Alice
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17 Oct 2011 21:53 |
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??
Births Mar 1857 (>99%)
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Newport Harriett Faringdon 2c 243
Deaths Mar 1862 (>99%)
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NEWPORT Harriet Faringdon 2c 174
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Mad Alice
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17 Oct 2011 22:00 |
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Thank You -
That does look like her but she Married William Sharpe in Camden in 1877 and died in 1913.
She may have been born in 1856
- odd that she is not with her family....
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Choccy
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17 Oct 2011 22:16 |
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for reference -
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Harriett Newport
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Spouse Name: William Sharpe
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 26 Jul 1877
Parish: St Paul, St Pancras
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Charles Newport (labourer)
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Sharpe
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Paul, Saint Pancras, Register of marriages, P90/PAU, Item 010
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Mad Alice
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17 Oct 2011 22:18 |
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Hi there,
Her Mother was Anna Ballringer - The Marriage record I have found on Ancestry lists her as father Charles and the witness is her Brother in Law who I know was married to Elizabeth her sister so I am sure of her mother's name. Hope this makes sense but it has also been confirmed by someone who is her direct descendent I have recently contacted.
However I did not know of her until then as she is not to be found with the rest of the family on a census before she was married
Alice
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Mad Alice
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17 Oct 2011 22:20 |
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Yes that is the marriage record . Thank you. Alice
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AnnCardiff
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17 Oct 2011 22:49 |
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it's Ballinger
spouse: Charles Newport
groom's name: Charles Newport
bride's name: Anne Ballinger
marriage date: 08 May 1843
marriage place: Longcott, Berkshire, England
indexing project (batch) number: M00154-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1040529
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AnnCardiff
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17 Oct 2011 22:50 |
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name: Ann Ballinger
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Female
age: 18
birthplace: Berkshire
record type: Household
registration district: Faringdon
sub-district: Shrivenham
civil parish: Shrivenham
county: Berkshire
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AnnCardiff
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17 Oct 2011 22:51 |
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??
parents: Ann Newport
name: Charles Newport
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 1821
baptism/christening place: BESSELSLEIGH, BERKSHIRE, ENGLAND
mother's name: Ann Newport
indexing project (batch) number: C15522-1
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1279450
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Christina(Lancashire)
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17 Oct 2011 23:27 |
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On the 1861 census there is a Harriett Robey b1857 Ashbury, Berkshire.
Parents Charles & Ann.
She has several siblings but I can see no matching Roby/Robey births for them (bar one for Francis) on FreeBMD......but there are matching Newport births.
Could Robey have been Charles' Step Father's name and he was using this instead of Newport on the earlier census??
Possible marriage of Charles' mother??....
spouse: Anne Newport
groom's name: John Roby
bride's name: Anne Newport
marriage date: 15 Jan 1823
marriage place: Longcott, Berkshire, England
groom's marital status: Widowed
indexing project (batch) number: M00662-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1279462
And birth for Charles....
name: Charles Newport
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 04 Feb 1821
baptism/christening place: Besselsleigh, Berkshire, England
mother's name: Ann Newport
indexing project (batch) number: C15522-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1279450
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SylviaInCanada
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18 Oct 2011 04:55 |
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just so I can see it
1861 Census
Name: Harriett Robey
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles Robey
Mother's Name: Ann Robey
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashbury, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Ashbury
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Faringdon
Sub-registration district: Shrivenham
Charles Robey 36 b.ca 1825, Longcott, Berkshire, Ag Lab
Ann Robey 35 b.ca 1826, Shrivenham, Berkshire
Henry Robey 16
Albert Robey 12
Mary J Robey 9
Elizabeth Robey 7
Harriett Robey 4
Francis Robey 2
Not Christened Robey 2days
compared with the 1851 Census
1851 Census
Name: Charles Newport
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Anne Newport
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Besselsleigh, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Longcot
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Faringdon
Sub-registration district: Shrivenham
Charles Newport 31 Ag Lab
Anne Newport 29 b.ca 1822, Shrivenham, Ag Lab
Willm Henry Newport 6
George Newport 4
Albert Newport 1
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Choccy
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18 Oct 2011 09:10 |
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on later census returns Harriet is said to be born in Bourton, Berkshire
FMP
1871
>>>>>>ROBEY, Harriet Servant F 15 1856 Wiltshire VIEW (BOURTON)
HABGOOD, Joseph Head M 42 1829 Gloucestershire VIEW
HABGOOD, Sarah J Wife F 40 1831 Wiltshire VIEW
HABGOOD, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1867 Wiltshire VIEW
HOLLAND, Sarah A Niece F 14 1857 Lancashire VIEW
HUNT, Mary Servant F 16 1855 Wiltshire VIEW
LARGE, Elizabeth Visitor F 38 1833 Gloucestershire VIEW
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Piece:
1887 Folio:
48 Page:
12 Registration District:
Cricklade
Civil Parish:
Latton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Court Farm, Latton County:
Wiltshire
Anc**try transcription -
1871 England Census
Name: Harriet Robey
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Bourton, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Latton
Town: Latton
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Registration district: Cricklade
Sub-registration district: Cricklade
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 61
Piece: 1887
Folio: 48
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Habgood 42
Sarah J Habgood 40
Elizabeth Habgood 4
Sarah A Holland 14
Elizabeth Large 38
Mary Hunt 16
Harriet Robey 15
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1887; Folio: 48; Page: 12; GSU roll: 830861.
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18 Oct 2011 09:13 |
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1911
SHARPE, William Head Married
30 years M 54 1857 Railway Servant Cottesmore Calland VIEW
>>>>>SHARPE, Harriett Wife F 49 1862 Porter Bourton Berkshire VIEW
SHARPE, Harrold Charles Son Single M 14 1897 None York Rd Islington VIEW
FORD, George Lodger Widower M 60 1851 Labourers Fishponds Gloucestershire VIEW
LEEDER, Gertrude Daughter Married F 21 1890 York Rd St Pancras VIEW
LEEDER, William Albert Male M 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Leighton Rd St Pancras VIEW
LEEDER, Robert Male Married M 27 1884 Tram Washer Triston Suffolk VIEW
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
711 Reference:
RG14PN711 RG78PN25 RD9 SD3 ED1 SN15
Registration District:
St Pancras Sub District:
East St Pancras Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
St Pancras
Address:
48 Leighton Road Kentish Town N W County:
London
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ElizabethK
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18 Oct 2011 10:16 |
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From the transcripts of the Parish Registers (OFHS)
Marriage-08 May 1843 at Longcot
Charles NEWPORT-22-b-lab s Anne sp
Anne BALLINGER -21-sp d Edmund lab
Wit=John Morse/R.Heavens
Baptised at Longcot-Charles & Anne
16 Feb 1845-William Henry
04 Apr 1847-George
23 Dec 1849-Albert
21 Mar 1852-Mary Jane
Baptised at Ashbury-Charles & Anne
17 Sep 1854-Elizabeth
05 Apr 1857-Harriet
Baptised at Besselsleigh
04 Apr 1821-Charles Newport s Ann
Edited to add:-
Baptised at Shrivenham
16 May 1824-Ann d Edmund & Mary BALLINGER
Buriel at Shrivenham
21 June 1850-Edmund BELLINGER 72
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Mad Alice
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18 Oct 2011 17:27 |
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wow ! What a lot!
I wonder why the family used 2 names - really strange that the parents are listed twice on 1861 census with different children. I cant get my head around it all at the moment - any suggestions?
I am going to look for Albert now - he is missing on 2 census' s maybe he is listed as Robey....
Thank you for all your help . would really like to know why though...
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Mad Alice
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18 Oct 2011 18:30 |
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Has anyone got any Ideas?
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SylviaInCanada
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18 Oct 2011 18:53 |
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Where did you see the same family shown twice on the 1861 census?
I compared the 1861 Census with the surname Robey, with the 1851 Census where they are using Newport ......... to show that it was indeed the same family
As for why ............
Christina (Lancashire) has posted one possible reason for you
Charles was born before his mother's marriage to John Roby
The assumption there would be that he grew up as Rob(e)y, switched to Newport, then switched back again to Rob(e)y
but we can only guess as to why he switched back and forth!
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18 Oct 2011 19:03 |
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1871
SHAWYER, John Head M 36 1835 Sussex VIEW
SHAWYER, Jane Wife F 35 1836 Sussex VIEW
SHAWYER, Henry Son M 11 1860 Sussex VIEW
SHAWYER, Elizabeth Daughter F 10 1861 Sussex VIEW
SHAWYER, Sarah Daughter F 3 1868 Sussex VIEW
>>>>>ROBEY, Albert Lodger M 20 1851 Berkshire VIEW
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Piece:
1124 Folio:
45 Page:
12 Registration District:
Westbourne
Civil Parish:
Chidham Municipal Borough:
Address:
Cobnor House, Chidham County:
Sussex
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AnnCardiff
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18 Oct 2011 22:21 |
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please continue to use this thread for Albert Newport - thanks
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18 Oct 2011 22:26 |
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1911 as requested on other thread:
NEWPORT, Tws Albert Head Married M 60 1851 Shopkeeper Longcott Berks VIEW
NEWPORT, Annie Wife Married
25 years F 47 1864 Assist In Business Wolverhampton Staf VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
19492 Reference:
RG14PN19492 RG78PN1168 RD413 SD4 ED2 SN132
Registration District:
Spalding Sub District:
Spalding Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Spalding
Address:
6 Winsover Road Spalding County:
Lincolnshire
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